Broke Boyz From Fresno
Hey everyone it's Martin from the Broke Boyz From Fresno Podcast, my goal here is to entertain, inspire, and uplift our community. I'm all about keeping it real, sharing my daily struggles, and motivating others who might be going through the same. Join me as we navigates life’s challenges, supports one another, and builds a stronger, more connected community together.
Broke Boyz From Fresno
Real Music Careers Are Built On Strategy And Character
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We bring Jai Dee, Quisey and Rocky together for a wide-ranging talk that starts with "Steelz" breaking down a Thailand breakout moment and ends with how to build real community in Fresno without chasing controversy. We connect music strategy, culture, publishing, and fatherhood into one message: stay genuine, plan your moves, and keep pushing the people around you forward.
• Steelz explaining how Thailand latched onto the record and how remixes extend a campaign
• “Wear more than one jacket” as the mindset for artists, entrepreneurs and creators
• Discipline, Lent, and cutting vices to get sharper in the studio
• Salvadoran identity, Mexican-Salvadoran tension, and what pride looks like in real life
• Unity across cultures, propaganda online, and why division gets boosted
• Respect, language, and how intent changes how words land
• Building nostalgia into hip hop, including the Los Bukis concept
• Monetizing music through publishing, licensing, IP and a real release plan
• Autism awareness, ABA concerns, and what support for families should look like
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Intro Music by Rockstar Turtle- Broke Boyz (999)
Christmas Intro Song by Nico
Cold Open Rap Intro
SPEAKER_00We the broke boys from the hood. We on the middle is understood. Won't catch us like and we that good. We always winning like we should be flying high. We butterfly up to the sky. No way you catching us goodbye.
SPEAKER_05What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the Broke Boys. I'm Marin. And today I have a special guest with me. Please introduce yourself to everybody in the camera.
SPEAKER_04It's your boy J D, aka Johnny Donatello on Instagram, man. You can look me up as J D J A I D E E on YouTube. And yeah, I'm just an artist slash entrepreneur.
SPEAKER_05Absolutely. And also I can't forget the legendary Mr.
SPEAKER_06Fresno, Key C. Y'all know the vibes, man. Tapping in. Broke boys forever. I brought a special guest with me today. You know what I mean? Oh man. Go and introduce yourself, fella.
SPEAKER_07Hey yeah, you know, it's always a treat when players meet it's your boy, Rock Dallas, you know. Slash Dark Different Shirt. Oh man. Yeah, yeah. Mr. Everything Ben, Mr. Yeah, Proly. Yosta. Yo.
SPEAKER_05Yes, sir, yes, sir. And we can't we can't forget about the boy behind the camera. Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_04Well, we got two. We got two. We got two.
SPEAKER_06We got Yachty and C off-screen.
SPEAKER_04Got Nipsey Hustle's cousin back here, man. That's a blessing to have, man. He's got the all money in, the crenshaw. If if I'm I could be mistaken, too, some characteristics too of you like really just resemble, you know, Nipsey's.
SPEAKER_07That's Black Sam's.
unknownI was just with the two.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome, man. So it's it's a it's a pleasure to have, you know, we just did uh uh crazy uh FaceTime with uh Steels, yeah, which is um you know it's truly a blessing.
SPEAKER_05We'll go ahead and we'll insert the clip here and y'all can see all that.
SPEAKER_04Broke boys, we got Steels in the building. So, you know, where you at, man, right now, first I'm out in LA, bro.
SPEAKER_02Uh, you know, I was just in the studio, stepped down for a minute, you feel me? But I'm in LA right now. Okay. I'm leaving uh uh I'm leaving a Thailand along. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Hey, you've been out there a lot, I see.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they they fuck with the record heavy over there, so right. They tapped in. We saw some like festival or something out there with a few like RB artists and stuff. It's gonna be lit.
SPEAKER_04Damn, okay, bet. Well, um, you know, can you tell us about why Thailand is is kind of messing with the with the record to that level? Because I know the story, but they don't know the story. Right.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, the story, it was like uh this little young, this little young kid, like not young like a kid, but to me, he seemed like a kid, maybe like a 20-year-old or something like that. He uh he was just doing a bunch of videos with this chicken out in Thailand, and it just it caught it was weird as hell, but like everybody in Thailand started like ravitating to all his videos doing hella hella views, hella views, and like it just blew up in Thailand, so everybody started tapping in over there, and bro really like became a celebrity over there. He went from like having 3,000 followers to like 200k on TikTok. Like he quit his job, he quit his job, bro. When we went out there, we took him with us, he was a celeb taking pictures, all that stuff. So like that's how the Thailand stuff happened. Like, it was weird, and then you know we tapped in with all the like the big rappers out there from Thailand, all the people that's popping, the homie Gunner, the homie Fix, the homie uh uh Mixi, like all the homies out there four bang, like they all out there and they like the most poppingest uh people in Thailand. So like they tapped in. We did a little uh Thailand remix with them video. So yeah, he got his legs over there in Thailand.
SPEAKER_04I'm not mistaken. That was the first wave of the Yaya, like, okay, this could be something crazy, right? That's what I meant, you know. Yeah, so you know, I I've been watching Comptonibia. I got the blessing to open up for Compton AV a couple of times, and how we were talking about it here this last time uh that he was impressed on uh, you know, uh with that run me my money record, right? So then uh you guys, you know, I hadn't seen him in 10 years, and he obviously he wouldn't remember me from that, but you know, we got to it's full circle to me. You know, I I get to have dinner with these guys, and then this is right before the big boom, though. Okay, so like we're we have I have no idea. Like, I'm excited about the record just generally because that's the type of energetic person I am, but I have no idea that this is gonna become the biggest record that you know, it's like I've got a blessing to like really just see in front of me like that, you know? And um, shout out Reggie. Reggie connected me, you know. Reggie was, you know, having them here on a couple of radio stations. We have the same radio manager, and um, you know, Reggie Butler, just so everybody knows who the guy is, you know. And uh um and it's crazy because he's so you know good at doing what he does. He's able to, you know, connect those dots for a lot of people, and you guys already had a lot of natural connections. And uh next thing I know, we're at the radio station, unknown to me, by the way, right? Um, and they start playing a Snoop Dogg remix. Okay. I said, uh because I just spent, I don't know if I I should feel some type of way because I was like, we just had dinner last night, guys. Right, right? I was like, yo, what like how do you hear about this? So um it's crazy because the next day we're at a couple of different radio stations, and we should be able to see that I have the behind the scene footage. And I remember uh the guy from uh B95 just going crazy, just going like his eyes get big, like, yo, what the fuck? I need to stop this record. He's like, that's the hottest Snoop Dogg I've heard in years. And then, you know, right after that, we were driving uh down the wrong way on the one way in Fresno. That was you know, it was good times, good vibes, man. It was a blessing to have you guys, you know. By the time we were leaving the restaurant, people were taking pictures with these guys and videos, and this was obviously before the big boom, like I said, you know. So after that, I've just I've just got to admire how big the record has got.
SPEAKER_02So for sure. Yeah, no, it's it's it's dope, bro. It's a blessing. Sign out Snoop and 310 baby on the remix. Uh and I hate to say it, but like I already knew what's gonna happen. It's like one of those things I already knew. Like, you don't really know we're rap, but I definitely knew before this even came out, I'm like I was smiling the whole time.
unknownI was saying, man, these people don't even know what's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_08Like, yeah, I already know.
SPEAKER_04I already know, and I got another boom coming with that, so okay, so tell us, can we can we hear anything that you got working? I know I just seen you with Snoop Dogg not too long ago.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, me and Snoop got a gang of shit where you know Snoop. I'm from Harley, so me and Snoop, like, man, we go way in that. Like, I was a kid fucking around with Snoop, like a real little boy with Snoop. So, like, it's just crazy to see how it goes now, like the full circle of it, like us being from the same city and stuff, you know, it's like it's crazy. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_04If I could connect some dots, brother. Um, actually, these are the guys who are doing a lot of work uh with Ralph Edwards from The Voice.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, fire, that's right.
SPEAKER_04That's from right here in the valley.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I'm tapping in with everybody, bro. Whatever is cracking, man. Let's get crazy.
SPEAKER_05I'll get you linked up with my boy Ralph, man. He's a great artist. He's down to earth, man. He gets down too, man. Trust me. He's amazing singer. Did you get to see that by any chance?
SPEAKER_02Um, my fight up.
SPEAKER_04So uh little things up in so he got second place, I believe, right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he came runner up of season 28 of the and he was Snoop Dogg's guy.
SPEAKER_04So Snoop, everybody thought Ralph was gonna win, even everybody was shocked that he didn't win. And then um, Snoop Dogg's guy was Ralph Edwards, so you know, it's like a lot of dots connecting there.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, his journey is Ralph's journey is incredible. He was a four-chair turn. Like, you know, he was worried that he was, you know, with the voice, you only need at least one chair to turn just to be successful. He got all four. And then and then at one of the songs, he actually made Snoop Dogg get emotional. He has a clip of it, and I think it's on his page. But he's gonna check it out. Yeah, yeah. We're gonna send it to you. We gotta send it to you.
SPEAKER_04Well, we'll take a drive to LA, go see my boy. You know, we might not make it a Thailand, but we'll make it to LA.
SPEAKER_05Well, we'll get a boat, we'll fucking swim out there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going on tour in Blueface next month, so we're gonna be we're gonna be in Oakland. I wanna say there's a Fresno show, but I gotta look at the dates. Oh, there is a Fresno show. There is.
SPEAKER_04Oh luck. You're you already know I got you, man. We're pulling out the red carpet for my guys.
SPEAKER_02Um, we've there of that too, yeah.
SPEAKER_04All right, yeah, we gotta link that up for sure. Yeah, we'll definitely link those those thoughts. You know, um, and then the other thing, just before, you know, before we uh have you go, man, uh, you know, what is something that you feel it takes to have this type of successful record, right? Like, um, I know you kind of felt like, hey, you know what? I knew it was coming, right? Everybody I bring up that knows you, uh, Clay and Williams, shout out to Empire, right? Um Baby Gas, right? Um, a Salvadorian brother. He's Salvadorian too, you know? Um anybody that I've brought up steals to, it's like, man, they love you, right? So you have something that like is able to make people feel comfortable enough to work on these records, and and you know, that's the reason why you're rocking with Snoop Dogg and Compton AV, and you, you know, you're doing all these things. So what does it take to really, you know, kind of make that happen?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you know, I just first of all, just like being a good person is one thing, like being genuine and stuff. You don't really meet too many genuine people in the industry. You know what I'm saying? So like always keep it to like my straw suit before the music is like I'm just a good person. And my energy always is gonna light up the room, and it's gonna always play with anything, any person, anybody. So like that's number one. And then the music comes in, and then it's just like I grew up in the studio, bro. Like, I really grew up in the studio like as a young kid, like people was I was hooping too and all that, but I was also in the studio while I was hooping. I wasn't just hooping, I was in a studio, I had a studio when I was younger. So like all those things, just my experience, all my life that I've been in, I've been in a Tupac session before as a kid. On the Tupac last session, I'd even been in Dab Pat was like one of my mentors growing up. DJ Quick was one of my mentors growing up. Like I was in the studio with these guys watching them at a very young age. Like I'm talking about like eight years old. So, like, just the experience, I feel like I have a lot more than a lot of these people that just jump in and just want to jump in, right? Oh, I don't want to go to school, I don't want to hook more, I just want to get in music and become famous and make all this money, right? But I like my experience is like makes me run laps around everybody. That's just another thing, and then just like, bro, like you just gotta stay on it. Like, we could talk about the Yaya record, right? We could everybody now just drops music and then they forget about it the next week. Right? But it's like, bro, it take it could take a year to work a song, maybe two years to work the song before it reaches its full potential, and that's kind of how I was with Yaya. I knew it was a special record, I knew it could go, but we couldn't just stop on it. So when people will say, Oh, let's drop the next song, it's like, no, I'm not dropping nothing right now. I'll focus on this, I'll focus on that. And now it's like we're starting a new way, right? With the remix, right? Okay, people have been doing remixes, cool. Then we dropped the she mix. Now I hear through the city that people are starting to do remixes and she mixes with female artists. So, like, we're starting like a new blueprint, and then we got the Mega Mix coming that hasn't came out, and it's gonna be like a little chapter to this yacht thing.
SPEAKER_03Yo, Mega Mix?
unknownMega Mix.
SPEAKER_03Oh, come on, come on, give me a chemical.
SPEAKER_02I'm not gonna tell you that one a lad of artist, but one Aladdin female artist that's going crazy, crazy is on a legacy like another another another legacy artist like a celebrity another top tier granted. Celebrity legacy artists, and then another artist right now who has one of the craziest records that's going right now. Like one of the craziest. Number two on TikTok. Wow. One of the craziest records right now? So three artists is on this, on this one.
SPEAKER_04What? Yo, you know what? I'm I'm gonna tap in right now. I want anybody who looks at this podcast, I want you guys to guess what artist is on this.
SPEAKER_03This is gonna get clipped. We're gonna click this. Y'all gotta guess it. You gotta guess who's in this mega mix. Man.
SPEAKER_02I got that and our meeting, you got some, you know, with some other shit coming too.
unknownLike we got we got some slaps, bro.
SPEAKER_02So just doing that, working on our our collab album, face and that, and then you know, off to the next next stuff. You know what I'm saying? I got a bunch of things in the works right now. I got my own album coming out, I gotta finish it up, that's almost done. Like, just a bunch of things, bro. Yeah, it's amazing.
SPEAKER_04And I like how A B moves too, right? He's really proud. I mean, to me, I think to me, like it inspires me that he's like so on, like, oh, you know what? We finally did it. We told you, you know, Yahya World is taking over. And it's it's like really something that he should be proud about, you know. But I mean, come in as someone like Compton, right, who's been dropping bangers independent, people just sleeping on him, you know? Um, and now he got to you know, burst out of the California brother and go now. You guys are in Thailand, you guys are everywhere. So that's that's like really my I just seen a girl go crazy, uh like a Mexican girl, she uh she just went crazy on the remix doing the team over here.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so you know some people go crazy, bro. Alright, brother West.
SPEAKER_04Hey, it was a blessing to have you, man. Thank you so much for you know jumping on this call.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, appreciate it, man. It's a blessing to miss, man. I really appreciate it. Before you go, I got one question though. What is a piece of advice that you would give to any of the young generation that are inspiring to be rappers? Rappers? Rappers, artists, or producers like yourself.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so I would say, you know, just you know, stay at it. Don't give up, you know, have faith, believe, uh, be consistent, be consistent, um, just just just stay at it and take it serious, bro. Like, you in this industry, I would say this. You gotta wear more than one jacket, bro. You gotta wear a lot of jackets if you want to be successful in this industry. So I would say cut the shortcuts, grind hard and wear a lot of jackets. Offer more than just if you just make beads, offer more than that. You engineer, offer more than that. You uh uh you know, do other stuff, write for other artists. Like, I wouldn't limit yourself. That's what I would say to like the upcoming generation in the music industry. Do not limit yourself. Because I literally engineer, produce, song, write, manage artists, bro. Damn near fucking all these artists' therapies, bro. Like, do so much. It shows in my music, it shows in my character, it shows in my my relationships with the artists, like just just just do more, bro. Just do more. That's what I'm gonna tell everybody, and it all makes sense, bro. It all makes sense.
SPEAKER_04You know what's crazy that you say that too? I just seen um I was with uh Chowder and Stingy for the Renevaca show out here. And um, it's crazy because Chowder was just talking about on a podcast how he was doing videos, right? And literally getting videos on stage and then putting the camera away, and then after that performing with OGZ.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, exactly. That's a prime example. It was like bro opened up a door for himself. Oh, I'm gonna do all these videos for Jeezy and all that, but I'm also gonna perform and I'm gonna get clips of him and me and edit it up. That's the prime example, bro. Prime example was chowder right there. So that's what I would say, bro. Do more, bro, do more. Don't limit yourself.
SPEAKER_04Alright, man. Thank you so much for that. Steals, it's a pleasure. I'll see you soon. I'm a little heartbroken because me and you were at opposite ends uh this last weekend. He was on uh on the stage with SOB, who just read that in. For those of you guys that don't know, I have an SOB remix dropping to my record. I have Slimmy B and the boy on it. And it's just like, you know what I mean? I'm super hyped about this record. And it's crazy because I was like, man, I wish I I'd have been there, you know? And then I see your footage, I was like, wow, I was tapping in the skills. I was like, I think I like it, bro. What are we doing? He's like, I'm going to the back. So, alright, brother. Well, thank you so much for being on the podcast, man, and uh coming on here live with me. Shout out to you, Compton A B, my boy Reg. Uh, much love, and then the Borough Boys for having me, man.
SPEAKER_02That's all I love, bro. Appreciate y'all.
SPEAKER_04Hey, uh, following my what where can we find you in, bro?
SPEAKER_02Just talking sales, man. S-T double e L Z. I'm the first one to pop up on everything.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he's everywhere like DNA.
SPEAKER_07Drop some gems too.
Wearing Many Jackets To Win
SPEAKER_04Yeah, he dropped some gems, man. That was crazy. So, okay, now we're back from that. Yeah, right. So that was a quick intro. Right? So, you know, um Stills left it with some gems. Um, I think that that was really important that he said wearing different jackets is really important. Yeah, because some people don't know how to do that the right way, right? Yeah, some people could interpret that as being like, oh, well, be your true self, and are you not being your true self because you're doing different things? Yeah, that's not the case anymore, right? Nowadays, uh a streamer is the new SoundCloud rapper.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_04Right? Like uh now streamers is the new SoundCloud. Like, you know, you're on Kick or Twitch, right? Yeah, I was you know uh on it early doing Fortnite tournaments. If anybody wants to smoke, let me know. Nah, I actually I'm I'm horrible in comparison to the competitors that I had on on my um on my uh uh tournaments, but I'm glad that I did those tournaments because I, you know, I got to become a part of the community and really, you know, host some of the biggest tournaments in the West Coast. So, you know, it's like that like what he said, you know, wearing different, you know, jackets. That's one other thing that I ventured off to. And I was able to stream. I became an affiliate with Twitch and you know, doing music a lot of times. I always joke around. People have heard me say I'm like Canada Montana. I just throw on the outfit and I'm dad.
SPEAKER_05Throw on the blonde wig. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Throw on the blonde wig real quick, and then you know, next thing you know, I'm I'm uh, you know, JD, I don't know, or you know, but before that, and then you know, it's like I'm a father first, yeah, I'm a family man first, uh, I'm a man of God first. Um, and you know, it's it's it's it's the day after Easter, right? Yes, sir. Um I just went through Lent. Um I seen God's blessings really, and I don't do it for those reasons, but I did Lent and got to go through my own experience, right? I you know, quit all the things that I felt like were my vices, and I quit them cold turkey, right? The things that I feel like people don't do for their own self, including me, right? Um, and it's like, you know, with the power of the Lord, you know, I was able to lock in and I didn't do anything, you know.
SPEAKER_06So you know what Easter is? Huh? You know what Easter is? Easter is, yeah. He has risen. Okay, so uh I ain't trying to be too critical, but Easter is when everything rises out the earth. All your agriculture, all the stuff you plant, this is when you're supposed to put your seeds into the ground so it can rise up. It's like a new year this way. Yeah. So it's very good that you went through that because now a new version of you has risen, right? That's why you cut out the stuff because you gotta discipline yourself, basically, for the lack of better terms. Talk to them after you come through that, it's a whole new season. We're in a whole new element, it's a whole new year, a whole new cycle. You wanna refresh yourself. So power to you for doing that, brother.
SPEAKER_04I appreciate that. Yeah, it's crazy because you know, uh, I was like, you know, um, how might you know, we built a studio and and within the time that that that let happened, right? Right, and a lot of times I was like, man, how am I gonna record music without drinking? I was like, I need I need a buzz, you know, and it was a challenge, so like I'm not gonna lie, like I'd go in there and I just you know, I didn't have that hype, you know what I mean? Like, I wasn't like, hey, you gotta find something new, yeah. But then what that forced me to do is become more strategic towards the type of record I was working on. Sometimes you get too drunk and then you end up working with nothing, you know. It's like the next day you're like, oh man, I was drunk. Yeah. So the same thing with my, you know, with the business, you know, it's like you know, you're So much more focused, and you know, you wake up and you don't feel that I drank last night, or you know, so there's a lot of blessings that that come, you know. It's not the drinking, it's the drunkness, right? Right, right. So, with that being said, I'm excited to be on you guys' podcast.
SPEAKER_05No, I appreciate you, you know, the being on, and like uh when when we first met was literally at dog days, you walked up and and and took the microphone away. Yeah, who is it? It was it Connor? It was Anthony, Anthony.
SPEAKER_04Oh, Anthony, yeah, Anthony, yeah. I was just I was just like, hey man, it's a podcast, man. I'm gonna walk up, and the next thing you know, I'm being handed a mic, and I become the interviewer, right?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, usually he becomes the host and asking us questions. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it was that was a photo reverse card, right?
SPEAKER_05Right, no, and and I love that you did that, man, because it inspired me to be like, okay, like it caught me off guard. Yeah, but I was like, okay, let's just make the conversation, let's make it flow. And it just it really just sparked up the conversation differently. And uh at the very end, too, like I will say that I'm fucking grateful for for you because even at the dog days, you said, Oh, I'm gonna bring baby gas out here for the interview, and I was just like, okay. And I was like, oh, you know, focus on everything else, and then KC sees you, and KC was like, Hold on, you got some important people walking in. And then that's when KC was just like getting up, he was just like, This is your moment. I was like, Oh shit. And at that moment, I felt pressured just because like to give be given an opportunity like that to not only talk to you, but to talk to him as well. And he's such a great guy, such a down-to-earth dude. Yeah, and we all relate, you know. He's funny, man.
SPEAKER_04If you you know baby Gascaril, man, he's he's funny, man. Him and his wife, they got such a good chemistry because that it's it's so funny because like a lot of the skits that they do, I'm like, I can see it happening, like almost in front of me. Like, I don't feel like any awkwardness happening when they do those skits. Yeah, or I mean, I guess we'll never know if they're a skits or not, right? Like I can never prank Baby Gas, but it's just they're just they're just so good. Like, they're so fluent, you know? And um, it's so funny to me. Like, uh, me and Baby Gas joke around all the time, you know. I lived in Modesto for a long time, and then I see him like on somebody else's story or something like that. I'm like, what you doing my hood? You know, he's like, You're a fresno boy now. Like he's like, This is my hood now. Like, you know, we'll just be joking around, you know, and it's it's good because like you know, we have that match, right? We're Salvadorian, right? Yes, um, I don't know, there's not a lot of Salvadorians out here, and there is a community, yeah, but I mean, music-wise, like we don't have that impact yet. Yeah, right, yet, yes, right? Yeah, yeah, you know you're Salvadorian. Yeah, I'm yeah. Do you know you're where where in El Salvador you're from? My mom is from San Salvador. San Salvador, okay. Yeah, okay. And then are you mixed?
SPEAKER_05I'm mixed. So my dad is from Jalisco from Guadajara from Mexico.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05Um, and you know, everybody has a different struggle, you know. Like, you know, you hear the typical Mexicans, they have to cross the border, you know, just to come here to this country. But a lot of people don't know that Salvadorians have to cross three different borders just to get here.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_05And my mom, you know, she had a a very early on, like an identity crisis. Because when you go to Mexico, she was just like, I don't want to get seen as a Salvadorian in front of all these other Mexicans, because then they they start treating you a certain type of way. Right. You know, there's always a feud between his like the people from the Mexican culture and the Salvadoran.
SPEAKER_04It's kind of like Chinese and Filipino, right? Like if you call someone Filipino Chinese or you know, and it's like as you start to learn, right?
SPEAKER_06Or like I I have a like black and African. I'm just kidding. No, that actually is a thing though, right? Africans, it is Africans like Nigerians, especially like in Texas, like, nah, they don't want to, they don't want to be identified as black. Right. 100%.
SPEAKER_07It's like a bad stigma to it.
SPEAKER_06And like, nah, we not y'all, y'all not us. Yeah, and it's not everybody though, but yeah, yeah, that's what I'm about to say. It's not everybody because then in our culture, we just like you African. And it's like you could be Nigerian, you could be Sudanese, you could be South Johannesburg, Kenyan, Congolese, but to us, you African because we just black. Right. If that makes sense.
SPEAKER_04Why do you guys think that is the intercultural, the intercultural thing, right? Because I love Mexican people, yeah, right?
SPEAKER_06Everybody should have heritage. Everybody comes from somewhere, except for Caucasian people. I don't mean to go there, but they tricked everybody.
SPEAKER_04Well, they tricked everybody. Even Caucasian, well, Caucasian people, even them, they're our own mix of the pot, right? Like they're their own pot mix.
SPEAKER_06Well, they come from like Anglo, like Anglo-Saxon, like northern Rome and stuff like that, which became England and Europe. Yeah, I mean, the Queen of England, and they the ones who colonized everybody with gunpowder. They bought the gunpowder from the Chinese who got it from the from the Egyptians. So the gunpowder changed from sword to rod, which is the firing rod. Right. Right? So the spinning game. The European advanced, I don't know how the thing was, but like the those settlers and all them people, they had gunpowder and muskets, and they was going into the uh northern parts of Africa, the parts that was kind of north near the water, that's close to like Greece and stuff, and they were just coming through, like, give us what you got, or we're gonna blow you down. They had spears. If you know like Zulu, Shaka Zulu, and all of them, that's real. Zulu is one of the greatest war nations ever. They they the ones who made the sword smaller because everybody else has spears. If you look at every other culture back then, they had spears, yeah. But he the one who broke it and made it close combat. But because he could get to you close and they tall, that's when they came with the gunpowder. You feel me? Yeah. So saying that to say, whatever Caesar and all them fools was on, uh, Alexander the Great, Napoleon, you feel me? They was coming blowing shit down. So that's where they started to colonize the Americas.
SPEAKER_04But if you think about it though, right? Uh honestly, white people have had the most violence within that cultural myth. Like, right? If you look at the Holocaust, right? That was like crazy, right? Of course. I mean, when you look at that, and then you look at uh um Mexican salvador, it's like, man, we kind of, I mean, we're good if if if the only fight that we'll have is just a papusa or a soap. Right, right. That's the only one.
SPEAKER_06But we have our own way of nature, right? Like even the people who was here, like the Native Americans, right? They have their own culture. They already had their own worship, they already had all that. And then other people came with Jesus and all this other stuff. Not to say that it's fake or real, because the history you can go look. You can go over the world and they can say, oh, we can find archives on the Messiah and the whatever, Horace, whatever you want to call it, the order of humanity, right? Right. And it's gonna be one kind of the story, gonna always be the same.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, there's other deities, right? There's shamans, there's uh Buddhists, there's uh Shiva, there's all these different gods that they had to utilize to you know deal with nature. Right. And then you got these one people saying, Nope, you can't believe in none of that. You can't believe in none of your shit.
SPEAKER_07Side note, I'm teeny papooses just saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Dean papuses and cheese papuses, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, look, I'm gonna tell you, okay, so look, I'm gonna put everybody on game on my drive gym right now. If you're on the 99 freeway, okay, there's a city called Keys. Right after Turlock, right before Modesto. Coming down from this way. It's called Ulingense 21.
SPEAKER_06Yes, 21. Right? On that something 15. Wait.
SPEAKER_04Go try that burrito. Oh no, can you say 15? No, no, no, no, it's like uh it's a it's like a sling to something. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know the exact terminology. Mind you, right? I grew up pretty much Mexican because I was in Modesto, right? When I moved from the Bay to Modesto, like I didn't walk into a culture of Salvadorians.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_04There's not like a pupusa shop or anything like that. Like, there might be one lady I think I remember that would do them at a church. Okay. And that's the only way we're getting pupusas. But you go down to my where I lived, Curl's Landing, it's the king of like a street of so I was like blessed. I didn't even know what I was stepped into, you know. Just fortunate enough to walk, you know, down the block, and I got you know, something that people will drive from a lot of places to come see. Right? So even with that, all the top dogs, man. I'm telling you, keys, it's not Modesto. It's two cities down after series, but that's still the top spot, man. Either that or probably Jessica's number two, which is like right downtown by the railroad, right? Yeah, right. Yeah, from Fresno? That's in Modesto. Modesto.
SPEAKER_06Okay, both of them in Modesto.
SPEAKER_04Now, I you know, I'm a big guy, man. I like to eat.
SPEAKER_06Come on.
SPEAKER_04Right here, we're right next to the number one.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah. Nah, he brought me that uh fish taco. The shrimp one. I didn't get the shrimp. Oh, you didn't get the shrimp. The fish, remember? You had the shrimp. He had both. Oh, yeah, both.
SPEAKER_04He had both. I was like, have you ever had the name of them? So they're yeah, they're number one at the taco throwdown, pinto tacos. Pinto tacos. Yeah. And uh they're number one. I was just talking to the owner. Gotta clip this and tag them real quick. No, straight up for sure. No, they've had they've had good food reviewers. And think about it, taco throwdowns, right? That's right. I'm like, man, Modesto needs to hear about these taco throwdowns.
SPEAKER_06Okay, so I've been all over Texas and I've been looking for a good taco. You can't find it. I lived there for 15 years. They ain't got shit in California. Do you know? Do you know? But I'm just saying, I didn't live in San Francisco and I have some fire tacos, but they not better than Fresno. No, but I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_04I'ma say Oakland has it's either Oakland, because that's the real the pop mix right there. It's Oakland. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Agriculture here is so rich that the lettuce, the lettuce, the tomatoes, is the shit. No, we got cows. Like, come on, man.
SPEAKER_07Y'all need to try El Macho Tacos.
SPEAKER_06Oh, I've heard about that.
SPEAKER_07It's a mom and pop spot. It's right here up the street. It's homegrown. Yeah. El Macho Taco. Best tacos in Freddy's. How about this? We gotta do that. I'm gonna extend it.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna do an extension. Can we do everybody picks one spot? Taco. We do the tacos. I'll make good tacos. We gotta pick one spot. We go up there and we gotta pick it up. We gotta judge it.
SPEAKER_06We gotta judge it. Episode two coming soon. Yeah, yeah. Taco uh broke boys. Taco.
SPEAKER_05We gotta do like a like a taco tour.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, taco tour. Yeah, they're gonna be a good one.
SPEAKER_05We'll do that series with this with JD.
SPEAKER_04We'll do that series. But it has to be with me, bro. I'm telling you, because he brought it up. Yeah, it has to be with you. Dude, it not only that, but I grew up in Modesto where like if you go over there, there's corners of full taco trucks, right? But did you know that if you go down to like uh Mexico, there isn't like a bunch of like taco trucks.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah. But I thought Texas would have good tacos because it's so close to Mexico. Why? Because it's close to Mexico.
SPEAKER_04But that's that's the only closer part right there is Apaso. And then that squad is I actually have a funny story about that, right? I didn't have my idea, I didn't have nothing. I passed down the passenger seat, right? My my you know, my wife, she's white, so she's gonna be able to cross this border back. But she crosses that you and that location. I woke up like this, right? I'm like this. I woke up to bright lights splashing. I'm like this. I see Mexico, I see Mexico, and I'm like, fuck! I was like, what have you done? I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be here six months. And then bro, in in in El Paso, there's this place where literally it just splits. Yeah, it just splits away, but it looks like you're going towards the border. Yeah, yeah. I was just like, oh man, I was like, I was like, what I do to make you mad?
SPEAKER_06I was like, dang, yeah, I'm sorry. Is it like, okay, I guess let me just ask this and we can go to another topic. Being El Salvadorian, right? And then do you experience like automatically having to adapt to Latin or Mexican culture? Yes, we're shunned.
SPEAKER_04We're shunned upon. Like, I would say that. Like, like, you know, like I think we're the black sheep. We're definitely the black sheep. Okay, okay. Like, and we honestly, and they're Salvadorians who I could understand why a Mexican wouldn't like a Salvadorian, and I understand, I understand it all, right? Because they're not really like-minded like this, didn't grow up in like a mixed pot like that, right? So it's safer to hate when you don't have to deal with that society. Okay.
SPEAKER_05And I think also what made it different is that El Salvador used to be like a third world. Okay, you know, because there was a lot of corruption, there was a lot of you know, politics that weren't gonna help out this the the cities. You know, I had a lot of cousins that would say that they would be making$50, not$50, they'd be making five dollars a week, and they would have to rationalize how to survive with just five dollars a week. Wow, but and and at at those times, a lot of them would have to go and work for these cartel members, work for these gang members because they would be paying a hundred dollars. Yeah, you got taxed.
SPEAKER_04You got taxed like uh uh before Bukele, you know, essentially took over there, and now it's becoming like an amazing vacation spot, right?
SPEAKER_05They they took out they cleaned out all did you hear about this?
SPEAKER_04Oh, I'm putting that on. No, to the world news right here. Look, so there's this president Bukele, right? Who uh essentially came in and like a little bit of dictator vibes, a little bit, just a little bit, right?
SPEAKER_05Because I think all the presidents have all said, like, we're gonna round up all the criminals and we're gonna do all this stuff, but never fell through it. Right. He tried to move it by the book, basically. Yeah, he came in, he was just like, We're not doing none of that. He said we're snatching everybody. Anybody with tattoos or even any affiliations, you're getting rounded up just like that by the military.
SPEAKER_04Now I'm sure there's gonna be uh a consequence of people who was this like two years ago, yeah. Oh, damn.
SPEAKER_06Maybe I did hear about it, just probably wasn't much common to me to know about it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and it's like it's so crazy because uh what ended up happening was um he extended his term.
SPEAKER_06Oh, some Trump shit.
Salvadoran History And Bukele
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but now that's not gonna happen. America, please, America, please. It's over. Look, man. It's over, bro. Hey, look, look, I'm gonna say it live here. I'm sorry, I wasn't too public about this before, but it's and fuck these gas prices mostly. No, we're going to be able to do that. Mostly these gas prices, man.
SPEAKER_06When they said new world order, they were talking about Trump. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I was gonna I was gonna drive here, but I won't.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I think. Listen, just be I was I don't mean to get political, but he just started a whole war. Right, like a a a faction where we'll never be cool with China ever again. So China, they come in. Yeah, we owe them money.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it's like we just barely in the beginning of they then see all these people kids to Iran on foot. 2026, bro.
SPEAKER_042026 being a part of this war makes no sense. It makes no sense. We can't go. We got flying cars, we got cars that drive themselves. We are focused on the wrong thing. San Francisco are that? Yeah, nah, for sure. You know, for sure. Flying cars, the first flying cars they actually got approved to be able to do flying taxis in in. Did you hear about that? No. Yeah, there's flying cars already approved in San Francisco area.
SPEAKER_07Oh, in San Francisco.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, like like literally, you take a taxi, you're in child J.
SPEAKER_07Now they got the car, so they might as well. They do it in Dubai already. Yeah, flying. Yeah, in Dubai already.
SPEAKER_05I love you in a good way, man. I fucking I've been on them. I feel fucking elegant.
SPEAKER_06And they hop in the car and be like, all right. With the text, uh, the botless, the bot, the AI text. Yeah, it's the Jack WJ was on there on TikTok. Like a robot I seen.
SPEAKER_07I was like, I don't trust it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I love it. I got the app on my phone. You just link up and then just it comes out of nowhere and picks you up and knows, and it only unlocks for you and your phone. Let's go. That's it. You get in?
SPEAKER_06Okay. Have you seen uh you ever seen Minority Report?
SPEAKER_07I need a contingency plan with Tom Cruise.
SPEAKER_06I got to have the minority report with Tom Cruise, and they can see you do the crime before you do the crime.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. You remember, you remember, uh, you remember uh Fast and Furious 2 with Tyrese? Okay. Yeah, that button ejectosito. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta have ejectosito, guys.
SPEAKER_03Contingency plan. I'm not, I'm not going, brother.
SPEAKER_07I'm like Batman when it comes to technology. I gotta, you know what I mean? I gotta have a way out. Yeah, no. I gotta fail safe on my chat GPT.
SPEAKER_04You know, there's there's I think it's China, if I'm not mistaken, that has um like your credit report matters, like that's how they base you as a person. No, your citizenship.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah, like citizenship, like the type of person you are is based off. You can't even go to China without a work order. You because you're gonna be stuck in the house. If you go outside, you're gonna get arrested. If you make it into China without business or with without the work order, you cannot go outside. Dang, wow, crazy. You gotta get a like if you wanna be a yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna declare my I'm old card here, right? Now that we're getting uh talking about countries in El Salvador, yes. I was born during the Civil War of South of El Salvador, yes. I was born in 1990, I was born at the end of a civil war. So when I tell people that, they're like, You were born in a civil war.
SPEAKER_06But where were you born at? El Salvador.
SPEAKER_04Oh shit, yeah, El Salvador. And it's crazy you said I'm sorry? Oh, I said edit that out. Okay, oh yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Just in case they come looking for my boy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04No, so well, no, I mean, I'm I'm gonna do it. You got your citizenship. I'm a permanent resident, and I'm a citizen based up my mom became a citizen before I was the age of 18. Yeah, so yeah, but now they're looking at that might those might get revoked, so we might have to end that out. Yeah, I mean, I'm a hot suspect. And then so um, yeah, anyways, so with that being said, I was born there, and then we still had colones, right? So it's crazy because I grew up like really feeling like I came from a third world country. You know, it's like hearing water hurricanes on ten roofs.
SPEAKER_05Damn, you know, um and those hurricanes and those rain. Hey, that's do you know where El Salvador is?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it's down by South America. Man, when it rains, it fucking rains. Mud slides everywhere. Yeah, no, I I've seen it. I mean, not that I've seen it, but you know my geography is that if that's what you're asking me.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and I always wonder why I was the darkest in my family, right? So that I kind of started doing some experimenting with my mom. I'm like, like, tell me more, because you know, my dad's still getting milk. And I was like, you know, like You're still getting milk. Like he's sure he'll come back one day, right?
SPEAKER_06Nah, nah, nah. My daddy never found it. He never found the milk. I think he's making it himself. I don't know, but we'll figure it out.
SPEAKER_04My daddy's drinking it. So then so then um it's crazy because you know, I end up finding out that I'm also Panamanian, right? Through my dad. And if you look up Panamanian people, they don't look Hispanic, they look black.
SPEAKER_06Yes, Pan Pan-African slave trade. Yeah, so everybody in my family is lighter than me. So, okay, let's just get back to that, Dan. Everybody black, everybody that's melanated is is of black descent because of those countries Brazil, Argentina, Chile, all that Brazil, Rio. That's where they were kidnapping people from and bringing them to Texas, Louisiana, you know what I mean, Mississippi. They were coming from there too. And then some people even went the people from uh Jamaica and stuff, they from like Africa, like Caribbean. Yeah, Caribbean. They more from Africa, but the people that's like Mexican and I mean, excuse me, the people that's Louis, like from Louisiana, Mississippi, most of them people is from Brazil. Are are you Cesar?
Heritage Pride And Unity Talk
SPEAKER_04Are you Mexican? Yeah, you are? Okay, how do you feel? I want I want, you know, because you're 100% Mexican, right? So he had a deal with a half and half, right? So like baby gas, baby gas is half Mexican and have Salvadorian, right? Um what do you think is the reason why there's that kind of Mexican and Salvadorian, like yeah.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_04Right. Right. So you think it's a pride thing?
SPEAKER_01No, I think it's a pride.
SPEAKER_04Like you're not you're not from us. You're not not not us. That's how you were you were consumed. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, right, right, right, right. Right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_05Which is which is which very common, which could be a true thing, but from what I from the history that I was learned from both my my parents, and again, this is uh only my opinion and from what we were raised with, okay, is that the Hispanic culture, the Mexican culture, obviously throughout all California and and you know what is it before the Louisiana Purchase, it was all Mexico. So it's almost like a territorial thing.
SPEAKER_06Texas.
SPEAKER_05So this is why you this is why only here in in the West Coast you see uh a huge Hispanic from Mexico dominant like race here. And very few that are a little bit of Puerto Rican, Dominicans, Salvadorians, all the other ethnicities, Hispanic is ethnicities, you're gonna find them on the East Coast. Because in the East Coast, that's where they all migrated to. That's where they all went to you know, where a lot of the slaves, the Hispanic slaves were taken. A lot of the people that were promised, like, hey, come help us build all these railroads, uh buildings, and help us out. And the United States took the whole, what is it called, the uh the barrows program. Um and they uh they brought some Mexicans from Mexico, and a lot of them were mixed, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Cubans, like and they brought them here to the states to work on all these things, and they were promised to get papers and paintbacks, and then the United States government fucked them over.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, New York was built by Caribbeans and like those the what's the Atlantic? The people at the uh cross. Well, the slime out there.
SPEAKER_04I mean, look at Cardi B.
SPEAKER_06Atlantic, yeah. Look at Cardi B. You know, it's like that's why they have like Puerto Rican Day Parade.
SPEAKER_05A lot of my homies and that's why you got the the what is it called, the bodegas out there.
SPEAKER_04But that's why I like this kind of like drives me a little crazy, right? It just I mean it's it's it's inevitable. It's a culture clash, right? We're we're all consequences from the cultural clash, right? Correct. Because you know, you get a Puerto Rican and you call Puerto Rican Mexican, you might get your ass whooped.
SPEAKER_06I I I experienced it, but I never got my ass whooped. It'd just be like they really stern about who they are. So yeah, your heritage, right? Like, and then back to being American, like at the end of the day, like I was always talking about the other day. I'm American first. We are Americans.
SPEAKER_04We are Americans, we are what this do you see this table right here? This is what America is, right here. It's like you could be from El Salvador and be in America as long as I have been. You could be Ethiopian, right? Eritrean. Yeah, or Eritrin, right? Eritrean, you could be um Jamaican, you could be African American, you could be Native American, well, Native Americans are the true Americans.
SPEAKER_06So my grandma, my last name is Perkins. If you know Oklahoma, Perkins is one of the biggest reservations in Oklahoma. Yeah, yeah. And they the only one of the only ones that still own their land.
SPEAKER_04You know what I mean? My kids are Native American, like they have they have Native American rights.
SPEAKER_06But my grandma is Polish and Nigerian. So she will she was like escaped the Holocaust and slavery. Got two bullets. No, for sure. Like the matron. And they moved to Alabama and Birmingham, and she started having babies with she started having babies with probably somebody who was a descendant of a slave, like my grandpa. And then my mom was born, and she had a baby with a Native American, and that's how I got my last name. Okay, so that's so what I'm saying, back to what I'm saying is it's like it's just about heritage. Once you know what your bloodline is, then you gotta accept that, right? You can't change that. You can't change where you're from. Right. But the pride is like, yeah, I gotta stand on my own, so yeah, I ain't trying to be you, I ain't trying to be me. And it's not, it's not like it's not like so much trying, it's almost like trendy. What's trending in America? What's the movement? What's the world?
SPEAKER_04That's why this whole I situation is it's obviously a target against the culture, right? Because if if you're um, let's say white and you're Argent from Argentina, got blue eyes, you know, and then you still have an accent, maybe don't even speak English, they're not gonna come up to that person. They're gonna come up to someone who looks like us, right? Um, and potentially just you they just target like targeting.
SPEAKER_06No, okay, so that's how we feel. Okay, let me just be honest, and that's real, right? You know what our podcast was about. If you go watch our podcast, the first one, I talk about all this at the end, right? Yeah, we at a point now where everybody a target. This is how black people have been filming, feeling. When I went to Texas, I never get pulled over. They still kind of like you gotta really do something, but when they catch you, they gonna they gonna ostracize you. Out here, I've been pulled over so many times for being just black, to the point where that's common in our culture. Yeah, so for ice to come, it's not a that's what we that's what y'all get or nothing. It's like, no, that's what it feels like, yeah. Right.
SPEAKER_07That's why that's why I try to explain to the Dominicans. It's weird, yeah.
SPEAKER_06So now everybody kind of sees so back. I don't mean to cut you off, but it's at the point now we in it together, yeah. And that's why the culture, that's why we wear it never trusted. You feel me? Because we all gotta identify with each other.
SPEAKER_04Believe it or not, we've been now it's just being highlighted, but we've been in this together, right?
SPEAKER_06You're right, you're right.
SPEAKER_04Because the way that um politics work is if is if black and brown are not strong on the unit, then that's when separation happens. Like, for example, divide and conquer. Yeah, exactly. Because if you get people, right? Like the Super Bowl was the perfect example of division, it was the perfect example. No one knows why they felt a certain type of way, right? That hated on that.
SPEAKER_06Oh, okay, okay, I see what you're saying now.
SPEAKER_04They just know that they hated on it because it was more like, why is this guy on here, right?
SPEAKER_07Like, oh, you're talking about the bad money thing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Okay, so obviously, let's just be honest, Jay-Z is a person of culture to the point where he understands there's Cardi B's, there's uh Mac Miller's, there's you know what I mean, there's there's uh weekends, you know what I mean? Somebody who's Eritrean and stuff like that. Like so they there's Drake's, there's Canadian white mix. Like he knew this a long time ago going into the game. Now that sports and entertainment is the most influential message, you know what I mean? We have to start telling the truth. Bad bunny obviously did that. That's why they were saying the representation that he was showing through the symbology of what was happening, right? Regardless if you listening to what he's saying, because I don't know what Bad Bunny's saying. He has a cool vibe, but it didn't bother me. Yeah, because I understand he's telling a story, his own story. Come on.
SPEAKER_05And you know what? I'll I'll back up that is that for us as as Latinos and and seeing somebody being represented as a negative way to be portrayed at the biggest you know stage of ever in history.
SPEAKER_06Wait, do you agree or you disagree?
SPEAKER_05No, I agree with that.
SPEAKER_07Can I ask y'all one question? Did y'all see black people have their own halftime show? Or did you see white people have their own halftime show?
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_07Just saying, we wasn't really tripping.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, no, but it it's it's I think that's a personal thing though, because I think you're just more culturally open, but there definitely was I seen it. I I went through stories and I was seeing people like, oh man, get this guy off my screen. I think it was Boosie. Lil Boosie, uh, I think was like, like, man, get the like right. And I look up to Lil Boosie, like, since I and D E B Eye. It's like, shit, I was better learning English. He was teaching me how to spell in the song.
SPEAKER_07Like, yeah, so you know, it's like you So they're gonna break it down. So, like, if you go on, there's bots on the internet. If you go on the internet, all these bots and these fake pages, if you go look, all their origins are from Pakistan. It's a study done on it. All these people pretending to be black people on the internet and making these false claims and these false uh narratives, they're all from uh Pakistan, India. If you and and if they did like a real study on it, and then these people they're they're uh not, I don't want to say like they're they're controversy farming, basically. They're trying to stir up shit for engagement. Yeah you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04It's just the thing, it's just it's like obviously we have the most power when we're together. That's just evident, right? It's just like any division they can find.
SPEAKER_07If you really look into it, you'll see that it's all propaganda. It's pe it's all built up for to put us against each other.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna tell you one situation that happened a few years ago, and I didn't think of it, it was a big deal, and I think it's silly, but um, I mean, I guess, you know, I seen someone um in our mutual circle that was black talk about Cinco de Mayo and the power of you know the unity that happened between black people and and Mexicans at that time, right? So the only thing that I think came off strong, or you know, maybe, you know, it was like it was more of a prideful thing. It was like uh they said, oh, like, you know, you guys can thank us for Cinco de Mayo or something like that, right? And uh, like I didn't personally feel attacked about that. I was like, oh, okay, like you know what, it's true. If you look back, Mexican and black people during slavery had to really come together to be able to get where we're at in America now. And then there was someone who was prideful about being Mexican, was like, How are you gonna try to take credit for Cinco de Mayo and things like that? I'm not gonna follow that person anymore. And I try to kind of like be like, but why do you feel like that? And it's crazy because the other person never even found out that that person felt like that. But this was just told to me behind closed doors. And I was just like, but why do you feel like that? Like, like, you know what I mean? Like, if anything, you're letting something that could be unit let you separate yourself or push yourself away, right? Um, I love where Mexican culture is right now because Mexican culture, I feel like now it's opening a lot more doors for like I don't know if you guys know, there's a guy named Talibelico in Modesto. He's Punjabi and he makes corridos.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_05You know, like the day and some of the some of these Punjabi brothers and sisters, they're be getting down. With with the liquor stores, I'll be seeing that.
SPEAKER_04Hey, bro, I you know what? I've uh you know how I I respect how Punjabis are able to uh like learn. If you think about it, they've gone through a lot because they've they've had to meet all cultures, right? Yeah, so um, like when I go to the corner stores, I know how to agree in Punjabi, you know? I'm like, you know, tum malaki alai. Ah, hey to my Punjabi community, man. Let me know how it sounded. Wadia, what did you know? But you know, it's like, you know, I took the respect and time to like be like, hey, you know what? They come up to me and they say, Hey, como estás, amigo? That's respect to me. So I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna learn a little bit of you guys' culture too, and and be able to do that.
SPEAKER_07Like when they come up to us and be like, What's up, my nigga?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that's terrible. And it bursts because no, I'm serious, like so when they do this. When we go take a break real quick that money popping, that's why uh uh Migles is popping. All these different cultures, that's why K-pop is popping, right? Yeah, like for real, it's it's that's what that's what it's driving on sampling itself, sampling life, sampling life. So it's not that you can't say nigga, it's not that you won't be suspicious.
SPEAKER_04I don't think that's what you say, is how you say it. I think it really breaks down to that important. I think it's more why you say it. Why you say it. I think if anyone didn't grow up like that, right? If you just say it and you didn't grow up in the bay, or you didn't grow up culturally, it it honestly, even then though, I don't feel like there's a closing to it because what if that person is not amongst the the Hispanics and they're they don't even know that, like me, wearing Fubu. Okay, wearing Fubu, not knowing what it meant, right? I was a immigrant.
SPEAKER_06Get your mic, get your mic.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, are we on?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we on.
SPEAKER_04We like right. I was an immigrant kid in San Francisco wearing fubu. Not knowing what it meant until somebody finally came out.
SPEAKER_06What does it mean? For us, bias. For us, bias.
unknownOh, I was thinking the the movie what?
SPEAKER_06Oh fuck you. We said bias, what do you say? What do you say? It was buoy.
SPEAKER_04So, like, you know, growing up, right? Growing up, um, you know, I understand the disses about kids without dads. I understand that. I'm a kid without a dad. Way more emotional growing up in my life than I needed to be. And a lot of lessons that I didn't learn from my mom, I learned them in the streets. I had to get smacked, or I had to get into a fight, or I had to do something like that. You know, I was so broke. I bought some shoes that I thought were fat farms, and then one day some kid pointed it out, and they were like, those are quad farms. The P was backwards, and I didn't even pay attention to it, thinking I was wearing fat farms, and I was wearing quat farms.
SPEAKER_06I ain't never seen those.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they showed them at the flea market, bro. I'm sure that they're looking out there. They still out there. Yo, Google them, yeah.
SPEAKER_07So there was there was quad farms. Hey, everybody in the comments uh drop the link for them quad farms. Yeah, the quad farms, hey.
SPEAKER_04And you can only get them at the flea market.
SPEAKER_05That's an exclusive. Okay, okay. We're gonna buy five pairs of the city. The daddy's gonna decide them, we're gonna give them away. I know.
SPEAKER_06Man, I'm being responsible to Russell Zimmers, even though I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's crazy because you know, sometimes, right, culturally, you don't know when you're doing the wrong thing.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. That's well said. Well said. So back to the word, the N-word. Yes. A lot of people don't know they're doing the wrong thing. And when I hear music and I hear it, especially in like Latin artists, and it's just like, nigga, I slide, nigga, I up the pole. I don't give a fuck, me or my nigga. And it's like, I feel I feel targeted. I it's not even I feel targeted, it's harder for me to get in tune what you got to say.
SPEAKER_04Because you don't feel you don't feel like you could identify at that point because you're separating yourself, right? And they think it's the opposite, right? Like you listen to music now. I can't tell you how many times now that we got this one-up studios for Snow California, tap in. Come on, we got the newest studio of one up.
SPEAKER_061745 West Shaw, we in the middle of the city. Yeah, man, we're here.
SPEAKER_04You know, um, you know, it's crazy because here too.
SPEAKER_06You can't get in here.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it's it's secured and stuff like that. But so crazy to me now that I'm like, dang, it's just something that I see happen so much. Like, I can't tell you how many times someone comes in and says EBK type B. If if we got paid$10 for every time we heard EBK type beats, I think we'd make more off of that than the actual studio. You know, so it's like EBK Type B, EBK Type B, EBK Type B, EBK Type B. And you know what? It doesn't matter if it's Hispanic, black, Asian, it doesn't matter. I think I've seen all those nationalities come into the studio already, and they do say it.
Language Respect And Studio Life
SPEAKER_06And I would say also that's only because the artists you target, right? Like I work with a lot of art. Um I really do make a lot of different types of music. Like, yeah, I've heard it. Yeah, you heard me too. Yeah, yeah. And I will just sit with a country artist and just develop on it and go to country shows or a punk rock show.
SPEAKER_07Right.
SPEAKER_06And if you it's just the artist, you know, it's not that's the that's the regional sound. That's the regional hip hop sound, right? Is echo E VK. You know what I mean? Or SOB Shoreline.
SPEAKER_04Hey, SOB, I got a feature coming out with SOB. Shout out, SOB.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, no, shout out. Boy, you gotta drop the clip. I know.
SPEAKER_04We're gonna drop honestly. Look, I'm I'm gonna say it like this. We're gonna drop it this month. Is breaking news on the Broke Boys podcast.
SPEAKER_06Wait, wait, wait, you gonna drop the whole song?
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna drop the whole song, the remix. Yeah, I'm gonna drop the whole song, SOB, and we'll we go we'll do a partnership with Broke Boys, you know what I mean? Pushing it out. So um it's crazy. I feel like I got Bitcoin when it was low, right? Nah, straight up.
SPEAKER_06It's definitely equity in that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, because it's like, man, you know, I'm a real fan of SOB.
SPEAKER_06Nah, for real. Like, we didn't do shows with them. Ask them when they came to Azteca, them and TNO, we were chilling too much. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah, it's dope though, but to see them come back, I wish TNO would come back. Yeah, this probably gonna be big because I know they're gonna be watching this now. I didn't even know I was gonna say this. But the fact that they came back, he called me and he's like, You didn't see what happened with SLB, but you've been telling me you had a song you played it for us before they got back together, right?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and that's how I felt about the Snoop Dogg thing with Steels, right? Yeah, I'm like, oh my god, there's about to be a Snoop Dogg remix of Yaya. This is crazy, and and you know what's dope about it, right? So I don't know if you know, but the song is called Los Bookies. Oh, that's legendary. Yeah, those Bookies? That's what you get? So, so that's that's the song. It's out. Wait, the song with who? The song that I got coming out with SLB is called Los Bookies. What did that mean? Okay, so I'm glad you asked. Go ahead, explain it. I want you to say it first, and then I'll I'll give it, I'll give it.
SPEAKER_05So they are, I would say what, the Elvis Presley of our parents' generation, correct?
SPEAKER_04Right. They're they're like the the rolling stones of less Spanish community. Yeah, it doesn't matter if you're Mexican, it doesn't matter if you're Salvadorian, Guatemalan, it's like you all know about the bookies, yeah.
SPEAKER_05So they sing corudos or no, so what would you categorize?
SPEAKER_04Um I would say romanticas, no? Yeah, yeah. Classics.
SPEAKER_06Because I'll be sampling a lot of shit.
SPEAKER_04They just retired from DJs. They just retired, right? So I was doing uh uh iHeart Radio shout out Nick Neck um and down in Riverside, and he had just interviewed one of those bookies, um I think uh Antonio Solis. Okay, yeah. Uh his daughter, no, who did an interview over there, and then I come in a few months later and uh circle. I'm like, hey, you know, but uh like one of the things, yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, we heard this right here. If I would also waking up in the morning, my mom's yelling at me, we're money, we're gonna look.
SPEAKER_06I love it. See, this is what I want to learn about other cultures, right? Like, if everybody wanna be black or niggas, it's hard because then we like, all right, like this shit ain't really what you think. Right. It's really creepy, it's spooky out here being a black person. But it's not that we don't identify, we ain't rocking together, but I want to hear y'all shit. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Well, so we all right. So the reason why it's called those spookies is because I said hair, hello long on those spookies, right? So growing up, that style, the like almost like logging. The moment long hair, right? You know what I mean? Me and Martin, look rocking around right now.
SPEAKER_03You know what that is?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, bro. That's what's beautiful.
SPEAKER_06And you can tell they're about their business, like just looking at the legendary Rolling Stones of Spanish, man.
SPEAKER_04And and man, I hope you know what a lot of the comments that would come in, they're like, oh, I see the lawsuit coming, right? Because I put Los Bookies as a title, right? And then people were like, wait a minute, this ain't Los Bookies, right? But that was meant to be a culture shock. Um, it was a strategy, you know, marketing-wise. Like, for one, I want to educate people, like, yo, this is rap. What the heck is Los Bookies? Right, right, right. You guys didn't know about Los Bookies. This is a perfect opportunity to let the culture meet each other and like this is hip-hop, this is something from my heritage that I'm bringing over to the hip-hop side, and I'm able to, you know, name it that broke boy shit.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, for real. Nostalgic.
SPEAKER_04So, you know, it's like, yeah, exactly. Nostalgia, right? So now it's like, how can I tell somebody culturally like about my nostalgia that didn't grow up like that? Yeah, I put a hip-hop song out that's Carlos Bukies, you like it enough, you're like, what am I saying, anyways?
SPEAKER_06Right, right, right. Yeah, no, that's what that's dope. That's the whole intention. Uh, when I met Martin and DJ, even in seeing them on his podcast, which is even crazy. I seen them on between pods on a clip, and he was talking, and I didn't know that wasn't that podcast that he was a part of, but doing my research and seeing all that, then seeing how they were like really showcasing the town on like uh just uh like a nostalgic level. Yeah, like bringing information that if you front Fresnel, you you're gonna watch this shit. Yeah, I don't even know how to say it. Yeah, so that was dope, and for it to be this level right here. Obviously, is it's we ain't even hit the summer yet, bro. Nah, it's gonna be an amazing song. Your whole what y'all even just what you just announced right now got me turned up more than anything you said all day.
SPEAKER_07I remember I remember when I that's dope. I remember when I met when I first met Martin in uh that was at Dog Days, didn't know him from Canopate, super humble, and you know, not even knowing like he's gonna have the keys to the city is crazy. Like crazy.
SPEAKER_06I knew I think we knew because we had a talk, yeah, but it wasn't no no disrespectful shit. It was like, no, we finna bring the city on, like we bringing it.
SPEAKER_05So it means it means a lot that you guys say that, you know, just because like I worked so hard, and I you guys all know my story that working from the fields and coming from nothing, I'm still doing this, I'm still impassioned. I'm I appreciate Caesar's time for helping me out too. And I might, of course, my manager DJ because a lot of it's shout out to Caesar, yeah. All these people, like they they're the everybody that's helped me out is to be in this exact moment with people who have been incredible entrepreneurs and figuring things out, and you know, I'm I'm extremely blessed to have you on and for you to talk about your success. Because, hey, man, like I want to continue showcasing that. I you hear it, you hear it everywhere. Hey, I want to show out the talent, hey, I want to bring Fresno talent, but what do they do?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, not being from Fresno to me, right, has allowed me to be an outside voice that understands now Fresno culture being here for the last few years and uh now slowly becoming a part of it of the culture, right? And it's like it feels like more Central Valley than anything, right? Come on. People ask me where you're from all the time, where are you from? And I can't even answer that because I'm like, I was born in El Salvador. You're trying to get me deported, huh? You don't like me, bro.
SPEAKER_06Hey, look, this wouldn't be possible without you, y'all mean like this man was he being opening doors for real. And that's what I was gonna say. It ain't about where you from, it's where you be at, right? And you be here doing stuff ever since you you've been a good vibe. We all met you at the same time, you know what I mean? You as soon as you seen what I was doing, you're like, what's up, bro? Tap in. And yeah, no hesitation. We got people from here that's hesitating right now, right? They're mad, they're mad, they're mad. Let's be honest, they're mad, yeah. And I'm emphasizing on that because it's over. Like I said, yeah, man, the summer ain't even here yet.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, for real. And I mean, that's that's the crazy part about too, like, you know, being so associated now, as like people hit up Fresno. That's how we had Compton A. V, Steels and Reg pull up on me. Like, I'm not even from Fresno, but they just know I'm out here in Fresno. I'm the guy that hit up, you know, to like, oh, where are we gonna eat at? What we gonna do, type thing, right?
SPEAKER_06Still said it. Good energy. Yes, good energy. Good people. Good people. You said good, yeah, being a good energy.
SPEAKER_04You don't meet a lot of good people.
SPEAKER_07Stay genuine.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah. Like being genuine, it's like so important. And um, I think that's why a lot of people really like you because you really do come off like that. Like you come off, um, not only come off ass, but you are like in person, right? You are just like how you see behind the camera, right? There's no like off and on or anything like that. You're genuinely this person all along. And it's crazy because you know, we're talking a little bit, you know, and uh this is the last time I'll touch on it, but being Salvadorian, it feels like you are the black person of Hispanic culture. That's how I I feel. Um, because like, for example, you know, I grew up with a lot of Mexicans, and there's a it's supposed to be a derogatory uh like way of calling uh uh Salvadorian is to call them a cerote. That is the N-word.
SPEAKER_01That is the N-word, but you know what a Cerote in Spanish is shit.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but in Salvadorian, what does it mean? Shit. No, no, oh Cerote, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, but that that term isn't even used like that anymore, like that. Yeah. Uh yeah, so it's like it's like we identify by what what it's being told as, right? So I think the only flip we got a Salvadorians that I've done in my music is like, oh, you used to be like Cerote, yeah, you could call me shit because I am the shit.
SPEAKER_06Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_04You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_06So it's like uh I see what you're saying. That's how nigga is. It was like nigger, and then somehow along the line became uh, and then it was like, okay, I'm a nigga, I'm the nigga. You know what I mean? Exactly.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, helping evolve the word, right? Because I mean, it it's undoubted. It's undoubted, you know, it's like uh it's just we're shunned upon, and it's just, you know, something that we have no control over. It's bigger than us, it's a cultural clash. That's why when there's other cultural clashes, I feel the same way about it. I'm like, man, I feel that. I feel, you know, like how you said, you know, people are stopping people just based off how they look. Black people can feel like, dang, now you feel how we've been feeling this all these years. Not that like, ha ha, but like, man, you feel us? Like, you feel this? I do. Yeah, I do. You know how many times I feel like like, you know, I just man, I'm gonna tell you a perfect example. Just yesterday, Easter. There's this lady selling fruit. I live in a nice area in Fresno. Okay. First thing that runs through my mind is what man, I pray to God that they don't harass this lady, yeah. And you know.
SPEAKER_06I understood. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know what I'm saying? So it's like now I feel it, right? Just yesterday, same thing. In this parking lot, there was a robbery right here next door at this gas station. Damn. We had clients that happen to be black. Yeah. What do the cops do? Stop them. They they're in a private parking lot. They come up to them and they're like, all right, but you don't match the description, right? It's like we're at the studio.
SPEAKER_06So why are you even looking at me?
SPEAKER_04Exactly, right? So, but why? You know why?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we know why.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I got a video from Focus, like, you know, but and to the respect to that police officer, honestly, he was pretty cool about it, actually. You know, I went over there because I'm cool with this guy. You know, that's one of the guys that teaches me, you know, how to speak Punjabi. Right, right, right. That's my Paji. Okay, you know, and then uh, you know, it's like I I was I seen CSI there, I'm like, oh my God, like I'm hoping nothing worse happened. Right, right, right. But apparently, if it's a commercial burglary, that they have to do CSI and all of that, you know. First thing I did when I went to go grab these energy drinks, I went behind the counter, I hugged him. Like I was like, yo, bro, I'm so glad you're okay. You know, and um that's the American thing. Like, that's the American thing, right? It doesn't matter if you're Punjabi, Mexican, Salvadorian, um, black, Asian, you know, it it uh it doesn't matter to me. It's like if we figure out the narrative, which is what we drive as the narrative, then we're the ones in control.
SPEAKER_06This is true.
SPEAKER_04So I feel like it's really important, right?
SPEAKER_06It's a it's a it's a extremely, extremely, and that's why I say it's not how you say it, just why you say it. Yeah, it's just why why you say anything. Yeah, what's the purpose? Like it ain't it ain't about being right, right? It's about just expressing yourself, right? It's just being open, being open, right? So that part is what this conversation was brought to you by open-mindedness, yeah, right?
SPEAKER_04So yeah, this record, you know, to me, it's a little bit bigger than just like, okay, you know, I'm dropping a song with SLB. It's like I'm a genuine Salvadorian artist, I do English, I do Spanish, I do rap, I do reggaeton. I was number one on Thistler for nine weeks with Agent, the song I did with Agent Marcel and Derrick King, a reggaeton song, number one on the thistler. You know, um, it's like it's like that's unlikely.
SPEAKER_06Right, right? No, I understand. It's a lot of hard work.
Monetizing Music With Real Strategy
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and it was just a big push and stuff like that. That was like my biggest song to date, and it's crazy because now it's like I see a possibility of us being able to once again do I've I I want to feel like Compton A V with that run me my money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did something, it was powerful, and he knew that he had more hits to come. Like, don't count me out yet because I got more hits coming. Yeah, you know, and that's how I really want to feel. Like, I want to be able to, you know, say, like, man, you know, I I was uh I'm gonna expose the formula for you artists out there, right? Throw a show yourself. Throw a show yourself or invest into it, right? You know, I got to open up for YG Mozzie at Stockton Stadium and the many more uh people. I was an investor into it. I got paid to go perform on a stadium at Stockton Arena. I didn't pay to be on that slot. You know how they treat us artists? Pay to be on the slot. Right, right, right. Pay to be on the slot, pay to get promo. No, right. When do you monetize music? How do you monetize music?
SPEAKER_06That is what we do, our protocol. Yeah, we monetize shout out protocol, the teleagony you know the call. Uh we we we monetize art, right? Right. It's just a protocol, it's just a it's just paperwork and knowing the language and then the licenses. Your licenses is the first thing you want, anything, a business, intellectual property, IP. You want a license. Because then you can always resell it or negotiate it. It's just like what the bond of money is made on, a license.
SPEAKER_04We had the person here at OneUp Studios that used to be um Will Smith's assistant.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah. Wait, who you talking, Frank?
SPEAKER_04Uh Frank, no, she came. The assistant, oh yeah, she came. And what'd she say? Oh, well, she, you know, I it was crazy, right?
SPEAKER_07This is a whole nother episode. Yeah. You guys want to know what's funny though? Is he coming? Huh?
SPEAKER_06Oh, no. I don't think I don't think I'm not sure. Will Smith will be at studio. I will be at studio. Yes, Will Smith will be at Friends. Will Smith. Come on, man.
SPEAKER_04We want to see. But yeah, no, and uh it's crazy because yeah, she came. Um, we had EBK here. And there's a black Porsche that, you know, backs in or whatever, you know, and she just happens to be here. I don't know who she is. So I'm just waving high you know, as I, you know, respectfully being a genuine person at all times. Oh, brother. So being genuine like that, she probably went out to Frank and said, What's next door? What's going on over here? And then he told her. And then she came over and I showed her the studio, you know, and it's crazy because it's like I forgot all about that. Yeah, so she came in and she was super cool.
SPEAKER_06Yo, so remember when I was telling you, I was like, You do Wilson's taxes. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04So to bring it full circle, come on, she was like, What are you publishing? She said, Right, right, right, right. Back to what we were talking about, right? How do you monetize music? That's what she was saying. Yeah, how do you publish music, right? Um, I can't stress this enough, right? It still said it the perfect way, man. You gotta listen to he's dropping gems on us. He said, Drop something else. No, I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna work record.
SPEAKER_06That's why I was shaking my head the whole time. I don't know. Y'all probably gonna be focused more on that. But if you look at me, he was just like, obviously, I've been in a lot of rooms with ARs and whatever directors. And your strategy, that's all it's about. Is you have a plan. You beat 90% of the people by just having a plan. Right. When you put a piece of content out, it's just a plan. You can work that one piece of content like Loressa or somebody. But a lot of people they just like, oh, I'm gonna put it out, share it one time. That's my plan. Or I'm gonna tell everybody to share it at the same time. That's my plan. And I'll just gonna say this my plan is to be so consistent that I always share new content. So no matter what, you're gonna be like, oh, KC there's something new. But it's still content, it's the season, all the regulars. You know, you can get the same thing with Broad Boys. I don't think y'all share the same thing. Exactly. We can always differ. Come on. So that's our that's our just I don't even we never even said that before. That's the first time we said it. I just notice it, you know what I mean? Yeah, but as far as you having a record or somebody having a record like stills or yeah yeah, hell yeah, your campaign. That's what we do at Protocol, artists and development, and teach media training and come up with concepts and techniques and strategies to build channels to monetize revenue.
SPEAKER_04I mean, just look what happened in one phone call with stills, right? Yeah, you know, we talk about what you guys are doing with Ralph Edwards, right? And in the Central Valley community, right? And then we talked to a mega producer, right, who's been in rooms with Tupac, DJ Quick, has the number one song in LA. Yeah, top 100 on the billboards, everyone's making remixes to the song. Lotto, right? Hey, you want to know what's crazy? Okay, so look, all right. So I asked Compton A. V while we were at dinner, said, Who do you want? Who do you want um on the remix? He's like, I'd rock with Lotto on there.
SPEAKER_07Oh, wow.
SPEAKER_04He said that. He said that, and then I said, I was like, you know what? I was like, you know, because uh uh shout out to my boy DJ Unique. We uh went to high school together, okay, and he's on tour right now with OGC or Shoreline Mafia, and uh they're super cool. And um it's crazy because now I'm like I'm connecting dots, right? So my boy puts me on DJ Charisma stuff, right? You know whose night it was that night? AV or Shoreline, her name was Mulatto. Oh, okay before she became mulatto, yeah, yeah. She was young mulatto. For sure, right? So I got, you know, me being on serious XM nationwide, yeah, first time ever, because my boy Unique hooked up the the connect on that. DJ Charisma put me on. I'm like, man, you know, DJ Charisma, a lot of work. Because I know that because of that night. You know, I'm like, maybe charisma. And then at that time, it was, you know, it's like it was just like a maybe.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04So I'm interested to see this mega mix. I would love, oh my God, it would be honestly an honor to have even had that conversation with Compton A V before it happened, because that is the power of the mind. That's the power of being able to speak things into existence.
SPEAKER_06Like knowing that everything, you know, is working for you. You know what I mean? It's not it's not happening to you, it's happening for you. Yeah. When you see things, relationships, or you know, just just just opportunities, right? It's not so much, oh, I'm being opportunities. Like, no, I need to be aware and active. Yeah. So that way I could, you know, engage and complete what the the whole purpose of me being in these rooms. So you definitely been doing your thing. And for you to hit me up and keep me involved in the circle is player, because that's how my boy right here works. If I introduce somebody or if I have connection with somebody, they I'm the same way. I want to make sure I go through protocol, right? I don't want to skip no steps because that always costs you more later on.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, because we met at the same time. I knew him already. Person, we follow each other on social media, but I know that you know you work with them more. I feel more comfortable. Like, I'm over here all the time, anyways. Always in your face.
SPEAKER_06So it's like, yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, but Martin, one thing about him is when it comes to this Fresno stuff, he's on top of it, bro. Yeah, like for sure. So I try my best. I try my best.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, so I mean, with that being said, though, that conversation, right, with the Ralph Edwards, it's like work now. We got two people who are working with Snoop Dogg, but not working with each other.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I grew up with Ralph.
SPEAKER_04Really?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay, yeah. So there you go.
Autism Parenting And Community Support
SPEAKER_07Crazy, huh? You know, I can tell you, surprise. Yeah, and then we also have a autism awareness walk coming up on September. Um, but that's another thing.
SPEAKER_06And Ralph is performing before we dropped that April 18th. April 18th. From 12 to 4 p.m. at River Bluff Elementary School. We will be celebrating autism awareness.
SPEAKER_04And that was another thing that we connected on.
SPEAKER_06Wait, Q97. Ah, yeah, Andre Covet.
SPEAKER_04And shout out to my boy Greg Q97.
SPEAKER_05I'm still waiting for the radio to get me on there, man.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we gotta talk Greg after this. We gotta talk Greg after this. So, look, it's crazy because that was another thing that me and you were really like I really felt personal like attachment to the autism thing because my son's autistic. Right. My son goes to ABA. Uh, it's hard because as an autist uh autism parent, right, there's different challenges. There's different challenges, and you know, it's like your forever baby. You know, my son is six years old in diapers. He's my big baby, man. I can barely carry his big old, you know what I mean? I'm like little bam bam, he's buff and everything, barely saying any sentences and stuff like that. But any sentence he says just means the world to us, right? And uh then I got the smaller one that's a year younger than him, and I can't get her to stop talking. She's like, so why is the sky blue? I'm like, well, because God made it that way. So why did God make it that way? And like I can't get, I mean it's never so I don't know how I don't know how they're even able to communicate, right? But you know, it's like being an autism parent, you know, um, one of the things that's super hard is there's a thing called ABA. And there's certain ABAs, um, like centers that for they believe that behavioral situations happen because of the comfort of the parent. So you have a child that can't talk, can't tell you what happens to them. But you're supposed to go to a center and drop off your child and trust your child without being able to walk the facility and let your child go in there. Right, right, right. And you don't know what happens, and your son can't tell you.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, no, that's a scary thing.
SPEAKER_07That's definitely scary.
SPEAKER_06And that's why Auntie uh LaShawn Tony wants to start the care program where it is specifically for people who do interact with people with autism, if that makes sense. But homes, like if they have to stay there for a week or they have to stay there or whatever, like yeah, she wanna make it to where the people are trained, right? You know what I mean? To do it and just like be able to have those relationships for support.
SPEAKER_04And it's autism awareness month, by the way. I know for sure. For those who don't, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_06I can't give you all the details on exactly how she wants to do it, but she got a good idea for that. And she because she her daughter goes through a lot, she's 17 years old, and and parents are also received different ways in the community, and I've seen it personally, right?
SPEAKER_04Unfortunately, there's parents out there that make autism more about them than their child.
SPEAKER_05Absolutely. And I and I will tell you that, like, I don't know if my you know, my my partner, she is a special educator, and I don't know if I'm not supposed to say much about some things, but you get those parents that are very active in their kids' lives and that are very like, well, we gotta be on top of it. I want to help out my child and do learnings when we can't take home, you know. And then there's some parents that don't even show up for their kids. And it's just it's sad. And then you have those parents that make it all about themselves. Right. And it's just like it's a sad case.
SPEAKER_04I mean, it's hard, right? I only have one son. I mean, as a man, you want your one son. What do you dream about having a son? You know, it's like sports, maybe when they grow up, you know, talk about the girls and stuff. I don't know what the future looks like with me and my son.
SPEAKER_07Right.
SPEAKER_04You know, it's like I have a special path with my son. I don't know. I mean, I I know he's athletic enough to do whatever he wants. He just won um a little thing for playing basketball or soccer. Actually, both, I believe. Um, but uh from the Special Olympics, like the little program that they have out there, you know, and it's that's just off natural, like me playing the other day. Well, me and Rob were playing basketball in the in the back right here, in the back with no hoop. Just like who's gonna shake who up?
SPEAKER_07Crossing the mud.
SPEAKER_04It's crazy because he still hasn't got his ankles back. I think I left him over. But yeah, so it's crazy, you know. So, you know, as a father, you know, these are the different jackets that Steele's brought up that I'm wearing. Yeah, I'm a father, a man of God, a businessman, right?
SPEAKER_07A man with no ankles, artist.
SPEAKER_04They're fat, but they're still ankles, okay? Stay correct. You know, um, and then at nighttime, you know, I put on the Hannah Montana, and I'm like, all right, now it's JD performing out there. Yeah. You know, and I meet many other artists that are exactly like this. I I was blessed enough to uh open up on multiple shows personal product. She's independent. If you've never been to a Sonoda product show, she is, I'ma say, she is the queen of like Mexican rap.
SPEAKER_06I was the first artist that I did press for in Texas in 2012. June or August. Was it August like 26, 2012? You gonna look at the video. Me and her, we yeah, as the first artist.
SPEAKER_04And that's a different snow to product that we see. Yeah, no, no, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06Now she's way different. And she's way Hollywood. Not in a bad Hollywood, she just glowed up, if that's what we say that. Sorry, girl. Grew to her glow up. Her full form, right?
SPEAKER_04She it's not like I get what you're saying. Like she didn't grow up Hollywood as I no, because you know what? Um, actually, recently, uh, you know, I'm really cool with her producer, Pumba, and uh, you know, and her DJ. And, you know, I was hitting him up because I wanted um my boy Reg had to hit me up, like, hey, Nick Knack wants to get her on a show. You know, um, those thoughts weren't able to connect, but Reg hit her up directly to her page, she responded. That shows you how humble someone like her has to be to have that mass following and still respond.
SPEAKER_06Nah, she's super interactive. She she kind of like she was the LaRusso before the LaRusso, in a sense. Snorda product. When she came, she already had like street team, she already had her own little dancer girls, her little homegirl psychic nodium. Um, yeah, and they're real family, man. Yeah, nah, for sure. And they did everything they stream, they did everything in-house, they merched, they did the production, everything. It was she was like low-key before Kai Son that now, though. Now I sit here and think about it. She was on that, but with the music, like yeah, big time. She was big on Twitch and streaming and shit. And not only that, right? But think about it.
Fresno Can Level Up Together
SPEAKER_04But it's like her team is like really loyal to her, right? Um, like Lisa gets it done. I met her um on the multiple shows, you know, and stuff like that. And that's her tour manager. And like, man, she's like just super humble. You know, you see Snowda Product, she's with her brother, right? Her son comes out to the shows, you know. Um, she brings her, you know, her, her, her significant other on the show. You know, they're rocking as a family, and it's like they're a unit. That is what, like, when we're talking back full circle, pay attention to these people like this. Pay attention to Compton A. Pay attention to Sona product. People who aren't, and I'm not sure if Compton AV's son, I don't believe so, because I think uh I think he's independent, but whether he is or he isn't, how they're moving needs to be viewed. Right, right, right. Right? And that's one of the things is like if you're an artist, right? You're dropping music, are you just hoping that you go viral? Is that your only hope? Is that the only chance you're giving yourself? It's like, oh, I hope that somebody makes a clip to this. I I've actually experienced it with one friend only, one time only have I seen that happen where somebody dropped a song, left it alone, and then uh we were, you know, we were working together. I actually fell asleep in my van because they were partying all night and I had to we had to work the next day. So I was like, you know what, I'm gonna pass out of the van type, you know? So then I wake up the next morning, and and then this is five years, six years ago, by the way, right? Maybe seven. Then he goes, I'm like, it's like six, seven in the morning or something. He goes, I roll to the window down, he goes, Do you know what TikTok is? I said, bro, if you ever wake me up at seven in the morning and ask me something this ridiculous, we're gonna have a problem. He just laughs and shrugs it off, right? And then then the next morning I hear you, did do, doop the exact same noise over and over and over again. And then he let her play. Did you wash your pussy today? What he put out a song called D Y W P T that ends up going viral on TikTok. You can look this up. I'm talking about grandmas, kids, you know, different countries, everything, just making all these videos, making all these videos to did you watch your pussy today? What? And that was TikTok blowing people up, right? And then he had to go distribute the song and fight for his money. So I'm a big, like independent, like promoter. Like, hey guys, look, how are you gonna monetize your money? How are you gonna get this artist? If you're out there, all I'm telling you is pay attention to the business, figure out how to structure it. Um, I know we're running short on time already, but you know, it's been a blessing to be here on the podcast. You know, I want to be able to help people here at one-up studios with my boy Focus. Um, Focus got beats. Look him up, man. Um, and you know, be able to put out that mentality into artists, right? Fresno has so much talent. The only problem I see in Fresno is Fresno hates on Fresno more than anybody else hates on Fresno. I've never met no other Fresno hater as much as Fresno hates on Fresno, and I wish that would change. This is from an outer perspective. I see artists hating on each other more than they're supporting each other. Right. If I seen that change, Fresno's a problem. It's big and mass. It's the little Texas of California. You got big houses here, you got big developments happening. People are building houses all over Clovis, all this area. There's big talents that come perform here at Seymour, at Chichansey. Fresno has an open agenda.
SPEAKER_06It's like cookies, it's a green thumb. Yeah, Lil Wayne, bro.
SPEAKER_04You think Lil Wayne's gonna show up to Modesto?
SPEAKER_07No, he's not gonna answer that for you.
SPEAKER_04He's not where is he gonna go? Where are you even gonna put a crowd like no? Fresno has it, bro. Fresno has stadiums that you don't have B Rail on the way. And and you, if if you accidentally take a left off the 99 and start driving around, it actually looks like a big city. Yeah, no, for sure. You start seeing the buildings, you're like, hey, yo, what the is this Houston? Oh you know, but um, with that being said, it's um a blessing to be part of this wrestler community right now. Um, I've lived everywhere in San Francisco, LA. Um, you know, I went to school to all those places, grew up most of my life in Modesto, and now I'm in Fresno, man, and it's it's honestly I'm getting to see a different side of the culture, the Central Valley. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05So no, it's a blessing. You know what I gotta say is uh everything that you've done and everything that you worked for, man, it's an honor to see it and witness how much you've you've created and how much you've done. And you know, I'm the one to give you your flowers for everything that you're gonna get because God's gonna bless you 10 times forward, you know, and you deserve it after everything that you've gone through, you know, being an immigrant kid to being such a successful man now and a great father. You have so much more success coming to you, bro. And I really believe that. And you know, you are gonna be a huge inspiration to the Salvadorian community, to the Hispanic community, because you still are one of the people that stood up and are making a stance and making an impact in this industry. And I will say it.
SPEAKER_04You too in the podcast world, man. I appreciate you, man. I appreciate that. I mean, in the podcast world, you know, it's like you know, we don't have another Salvadorian. I just seen a Salvadorian comedian. You know? You gotta put me on, let me know what his name is Yeah, yeah. No, I just I just seen this guy like a week ago, and I'm like supporting because I'm like, oh, you know what, man, I'm finally getting to see a Salvadorian do his thing, you know. Um the proudest show that I'm I'm uh I'm proud to be a part of was in Los Angeles. There's a Salvadoran community. And you know how you have Chinatown, you have Koreatown, you have all these places, right? There is now a freeway sign that's called the Corredor del Salvador. It's a freeway sign that there was a festival for, and I got to perform at the opening of that. And now when I drive by LA and I see that freeway sign, I'm a part of that forever. Okay, like that's history to me. You know, I'm proud because I'm like, I was able to be a part of that for my Salvadorian community, and I came with rap.
SPEAKER_06Right, representation is important, man. In any ethnicity, though, like that's the beauty of America at the end of the day, is today it's something for everybody, right? Everybody can't have such a diverse economy. Yeah, some places you gotta be Muslim, some places you gotta be Catholic, some places you gotta be whatever. You know what I mean? Versus here, it's like nah, I'll fuck with you, but I'm still me. You know what I mean? So definitely it's always a pleasure when we can get it together.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I know. I'm I'm really happy to, you know, have met. If there's a lot that came out of Dog Days, um was, you know, meeting people like you guys, right? Unfortunately, for me personally, you know, Dog Days didn't quite pan out the way I wanted it to be.
SPEAKER_06In the next episode.
SPEAKER_04But, you know, at least I got to be a part of, you know, the meet and greet of a lot of the greats in Fresno that I would have never met without that, you know, and um it's crazy because you had to be working hard to even be on the upside to experience that, right?
SPEAKER_06Because a lot of people didn't even know. And then other people they just like they have a closed mind. I don't want to go see chain smokers, I don't listen to that type of music, but it's the energy that comes with it and our community, right? So now we know what's possible, so I feel like it's our position to make that shit possible. Chain smokers is freaking possible, right? It's like we said day possible, Beyonce possible, Kanye possible. You see what I'm saying? Kendrick, Drake, whoever, Bad Bunny, whoever, Unwell, whoever. You feel me? And we would be a small show to them, which is crazy, right? They're not gonna look at it like that because even when they got off the stage, look at all the behind the scenes, they were in the crowd.
SPEAKER_04How many people does chichancy fit?
SPEAKER_06I think it's like 10,000. Way more, way more, way more, like probably 50 to 70. I don't think I don't think 50, maybe like 30, 40.
SPEAKER_05Like you think so? I think so. I think so. Honestly, yeah, just the way that it looked like, even the security people were expecting Dog Days to have like 16,000.
SPEAKER_06Okay, so I'm saying like this, from what I remember, crowded from the front of the stage all the way to the back, which it almost got there, and then every single seat and then all the foyer, all the walkway, and the and not gonna say the front. I think a cool probably 50,000. Y'all think so?
SPEAKER_05I don't know. 50? Could be, maybe. I don't know. We should look it up.
SPEAKER_08I don't know.
SPEAKER_05Well, yeah, we just gotta. I like that word. I like that word. Okay, comfortably. Okay, I see what you're saying.
SPEAKER_04It's like if we're like the fish in in SpongeBob, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_06The nematodes, I'm freaking.
SPEAKER_04Other than that, but nah, I mean, I think that it's it's that's you know, well, we shall see what comes of this year, right? Yeah, chain smokers was here last year. I'd like to see Devin be able to bounce back and and connect that, right? And um, if not, then who? Right? Then who? Somebody it's up for the grabs.
SPEAKER_06Nah, for surely, right?
SPEAKER_04It's it's up for an opportunity, you know.
Closing Philosophy And Sign-Off
SPEAKER_06If you're thinking about it, why not us? Why not? Because we we know what it takes. Exactly.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_06So with that being said, yeah, I mean, I I appreciate you opening your door and just that's what it's all about, bro, is extending resources. If you got it in your the get the next play across the board, just do it. And the philosophy for Digimans is whoever in front of you push them. Everybody can get in line. Just push the next person that's in front of you. And everybody, if you even if you get through the front door, you can still get back in line, or even if you fall off, you can still get back in line. As long as everybody got the right philosophy to push who in front, instead of being like, he ahead of me in the game. I'm not fucking with them.
SPEAKER_04But I bet you if we made a clip, right? Of me and you like arguing to the point where we're standing up and like going each against each other, and then like like people watch the full episode and that never happened, it would get more views than us doing this shit. Yeah, yeah. This right here, because we're intellectual about this.
SPEAKER_07People want controversies to you know what?
SPEAKER_04Somebody somebody did it on a comedy show. Yeah, it could just be Instagram real too.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Ready, ready, whatever you say, go. We gotta get into our acting mode, right? All right, like nah, you're just hella close-minded about that, though. Like, I don't understand why why you would even bro. Like, you gotta think, bro.
SPEAKER_06Like, that's what I'm saying, bro. Look, I'm gonna tell you. But no, nah, you gotta think about it, bro. Coming from our perspective, you already know like everything harder for us, bro. Like, think about it.
SPEAKER_04As a Latino though, like as a Latino, you're gonna tell me exactly what that what that's about. Like, you're gonna tell me what what what that culture is.
SPEAKER_06Everything we do is like everything we do is getting copied. So, like, that's how they get copied. What are you talking about, bro?
SPEAKER_04Come on, we gotta do it. You know what's crazy about it? You know what's crazy about it? Is you're talking about copying?
SPEAKER_03We got it.
SPEAKER_06My boy JD episode. Yeah, let's go, man. Everybody who put this thing together, everybody just decided to make the effort to be here. My boy Rocky. Right here, man. Right here, JD, right here in the middle, man.
SPEAKER_05Yachty, and you already know Martin. Shout out to everybody, man. We love you guys. We'll catch you guys in the next episode. Hello, those bookies. I try to drive, but I'm two keys, yeah.
SPEAKER_04And you don't wanna fail you in two piece. Bitch, I got two keys. I don't even need them as a pussy. Oh, bitch left, it was getting harder. I'm rockin' booty everywhere like Bubba Sparks.
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