Broke Boyz From Fresno

A Miscommunication on Stage Turned into A Global Conversation

• Martin M • Season 3 • Episode 22

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We sit down with Ryan “the air up there” Hudgens to unpack a viral on-stage clash, the reality of creator access, and the deeper story of Fresno’s creative pride. What starts as a light setup chat becomes a study in respect, process, and full-circle moments.

• mobile kit versus full studio trade-offs
• turning a studio into a local arts hub
• Fresno talent pipeline and overlooked scenes
• car culture, father–child bonding, dream builds
• newsroom grind to certified drone pilot
• breaking news instincts and fast-turn reels
• R&B night access rules and miscommunication
• the on-stage confrontation and slur with Mario
• community response and viral acceleration
• backstage respect, Lloyd’s generosity, humility
• separating artist talent from tough moments
• pricing creative work and sustainable hustle
• parenting, values, and teaching craft
• culture, numbers, and full-circle milestones
• shoutouts to local promoters and performers

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Intro Music by Rockstar Turtle- Broke Boyz (999)
Christmas Intro Song by Nico

SPEAKER_00:

We done broke boys from the hood. We on the midges understood. Won't catch is lagging with that good. We always winning like we should. We flyin' high, we butterfly up to the sky. No way you catching is good bye. Pretty God, we make it alive.

SPEAKER_04:

But I I know that thing looked crispy.

SPEAKER_03:

Every time, man. Yeah, I know I wish uh I wish I had more time to get the whole team. You know, because when I get the whole team, it's like it's so easier. Uh we got Chango behind on the camera. We're able to do the whole three-point image, right? And it makes it way more professional. Um but now it's like now it's back to the original format of it. Yeah, which is again, I ain't got nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_04:

I love my mobile setup. Yeah. Even then, like one of these days you gotta check out the studio. See the space that we got. Meet meet uh Nick Tessie, he's the one who allowed us to even access the studio, but definitely gonna turn that into a creative space. Uh, me and him are in the works of trying to figure out if we're gonna bring artists on and use that as a performative spot.

SPEAKER_02:

Gotta do it.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, so I'd love to have you there.

SPEAKER_02:

Hey, any any way that I can be of assistance, um, now I got some kind of push and ready to work, man. Yeah, we gotta take care of local, man. Local towns. There's so much, so much talent in Fresno, man. Fresno alone that people don't know of. It just everybody sleeps on us.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, man. Fresno is one of the most slept-on towns, I feel like. I mean, there's other little towns like I got homies in Reidley, homies in Visalia, and stuff like that. But Fresno is like it's a big city for a reason. It it definitely needs to have its voice, it needs uh someplace to showcase its art. For sure. And I think uh art hob definitely helps a lot with that, but even in means of like an open venue for local artists to really perform, we need to do that.

SPEAKER_03:

Which is why like and right now we got we're partnering up with Nisha from All Things Fresno, and she wants to really uh have so many projects coming up. One of them is at Lucy's Lounge on Mondays today. They they have uh performances with uh hosted by Brandon. Um and the there's things like that that's like we can extend that hand of like, hey, let's let's bring you, let's get you to connect, and let's get you to network with everybody that we know. Right. And again, like having a lot of local artists that we know and local people that are rooted here in Fresno and the people that we showcased already, like it's already massive as it is, and we could definitely easily find you somebody, you know, for music videos, I mean to shop promo videos. I mean, the the demand is so high for every single one of those local artists, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Even in terms of like a car show. Now that I know your work and I've seen your work, I'm like, yeah, I gotta get into one of the car meetings because that's gonna be lit, dude.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm I'm down, I'm always looking for for classic car shows. I just did the um the Clovis Car Rama, I believe it was called a few weeks ago, or not a few weeks ago, a few months back, and that was huge. Uh, you're talking about cars from I think it was era 67 to about 77, if I'm not mistaken. Okay. Um, and I was out there just I took my boy with me, and it was a nice little son-father bonding experience. You know, he got to sit in one of the old uh Nova 2s, guys started it up, and he was just like it was I mean, for it for a dad to see that in his six-year-old is like, yeah, that's awesome, man. It just makes it all worth it. I went out there and found my dream car, which is a 70 SS Chevelle, red with black rally stripes. If you guys go to my page, you'll see it on there. Yeah, um, but that's that's all I was I was literally on the hunt to find that specific car. Yeah, and I was like, it started to get hot, you know, right? It made you change your mind about doing a lot of things. So me and my boy was out there for about an hour and a half, and he was ready to go, and I was like, it's kinda hot. But we were on the hunt. We had to find it. On the last stretch, I was saw some red glimmering. I said, if that has black, if it has a black skin, so we walked over. And it was interesting because the guy who actually owned the car, he got it out of a shop in Oklahoma, and it was just like it's beat. Not really beat beat, but enough to where he had to do some extensive uh repairs and stuff.

SPEAKER_05:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, but it was all there, everything was matching, everything was matching. So he took it over to uh had a ship to Florida Florida uh past and presence cars where they do follow them. Those guys got a it makes you mad how many Chevelles they got in that thing. I'm talking about at least 30 that you can count, and they're all immaculate.

SPEAKER_04:

Is it only Chevelles?

SPEAKER_02:

They got G bodies, they got Well, they have everything, but in this one location that I know of, it's just all Chevelles. Oh I'm talking 70, 71, 72, classic. It's pretty much like walking into a shoe closet and you see Jordan's 10, 11, 12. Right. Bam, you're done. That's all I just give me one, two, three, four. So yeah, pass and presence. If you guys are looking listening, shout out for sure. You guys definitely do a great job.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I'm gonna have to check them out because I love cars. Me and me and closet cars are like this. My dream car is a 68 or 69 Camaro SS, if I could, bro. Definitely been one of my dream cars since uh Kendrick Lamar dropped uh the all-right music video. Yeah, the black one doing donuts on the cop car. Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

My uh my nephew just has his dream car too, 68. His dad works on cars. Shout out Lil Ruben and Big Ruben. Okay, you go to their house and they got nothing but classics. I'm talking about GMC trucks, they got Cheyenne's out there, they got a 70, I believe 71 Chevy, uh, they got a Nova, uh, they just got the 68 uh Camaro and they're working on it. And the and the best part about it, like I said, the the dad taught the son how to do everything. Right. So from from as a little kid now, they're out in the country. I'm from Hanford, right? And they're taking care of animals and stuff. They're they're showing them, you know, how to be a man young. Yeah. Taught him how to work on motors and stuff, and he's you know, in high school, he's like the paniac of all his friends, and he's over there switching out engines, switching out transmissions, getting his hands dirty.

SPEAKER_03:

Man, that was that was DJ. DJ very early on learned that. I learned uh I've always been hands-on with anything mechanical. Yeah, I mean, I grew up in working in the field, so if something breaks down a hydraulic pump or something, we're right there fixing it on the spot.

SPEAKER_02:

So shoot. Yeah, much respect and props to people who can get under hood and do some things. I'm like, I'll be the one to pay the person.

SPEAKER_03:

Right, right, right, right. You're the one holding the platform.

SPEAKER_02:

Nah, I know I do something, but it's when it gets extensive and you got tight spaces, I get mad, man. I'm like, I can't keep cutting my hands up, right? Like reaching here and grab this bolt.

SPEAKER_04:

Right, right. And don't let the 10 mil fall.

SPEAKER_02:

Hold it, hold it, just snaps. Ridiculous.

SPEAKER_04:

It's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_03:

That's the worst.

SPEAKER_04:

I didn't have my fair share of busting knuckles and scraped up elbows, man. I me personally, I'm getting to that age and that point where I'm like, do I really want to work on it? Like, I you know, like paying somebody to do it sometimes, it's like, man, I don't want to have to spend this money, but at the same time, if you don't got the time to do it, knowing it's extensive, like pulling a transmission out. Oh, yeah. I'm not doing all that. On a hot summer day, it's 102 degrees. You think I'm pulling a transmission out?

SPEAKER_02:

You look for excuses to get out. You know that grass hasn't been cut in three days. I can trim it a little bit.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that'll only take me 30 minutes. Right, right, right, right. Life goes slow and meticulously, right? Right. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm gonna log into this uh because I see people are on live, so let's they might have some questions. I don't know what we're gonna talk about. Do you guys have any?

SPEAKER_03:

Hold on, let me just jump right into it before we reintroduce. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of The Broke Boys. I'm Martin, I'm DJ, and today we got a special guest. Please introduce yourself to everybody that's watching.

SPEAKER_02:

My name is Ryan Hudgens, aka droney, for those who don't know me.

SPEAKER_03:

Hell yeah. So today, this is gonna be a little different episode. This is very quick, uh, spontaneous, really on the fly. Uh, super last minute, but we're definitely gonna make the best out of it. Yes, absolutely. And thank you for uh for allowing us to come here to your home. You have such a lovely home. And uh I'm pleased, like if you got any questions or anybody that's asking, we'll put it in there.

SPEAKER_02:

And this is this is the business, this ain't the home, right? So just you know no, yeah, we buy it off on taxes and everything. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. So yeah, let's. I mean, which I'm glad that you, I you know, it's crazy that we ran into you guys. See, I've known you for some years doing some work over at English. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, working the bar area. And I yeah, I was I've been there for almost what, almost 12 years now. Wow. Uh and I started off just working in the fields around the the area. Uh Brett was the one who gave me an opportunity to, you know, earn some extra money on the side, and I took it. And then after that, they both, uh, Brett and Elena were both like, hey, like you want to work Friday nights and do all that? And I started off as as a float, is to like restocking shelves and doing all that. Um, and then eventually became a bouncer, and then became the main bouncer. And then after that, like uh he got his beer license, and then he was like, Hey, do you want to jump in the bar and do all that? So ever since, I mean, I've always been loyal to them and respectful to them. They've known me for for years. Great people, uh, great, great people. And yeah, like that's where I would run into him, and he would come up to the bar, he'd be like, Hey, what you got what you want?

SPEAKER_02:

You know, yeah, that's it. But no, it's definitely respectful people, great. And if people were in Fresno were like, Oh, there's nothing to do in Fresno, go out to Engelman Cellars. Yeah, it's a quick 15-minute ride west, right there on uh Rolinda, yeah. Uh just west of Fresno, and they have amazing artists every year. They have their summer uh their summer fest, uh, music festival, and they they bring out some big names. Um actually the one who uh allowed me to go viral the first time was uh Tom Sandoval. If you guys that's the second pen video, yes, check that out. But yeah, great dude, and I mean great, great uh atmosphere and family friendly and everything.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, so how did you end up getting into Engleman?

SPEAKER_02:

Um, so that's right. I do I didn't want to ask you so it's it's funny how how everything is is connected. Um so I used to work for the news for for 12 years, um, both K and PH, Fox 26, um, KC24, CBS 47. Yeah, dang.

SPEAKER_04:

Um touching bases all over the man. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

But but K and PH Fox 26, we were the only news station, I think, uh in the for sure in the area, but I think nationwide, I did a five-hour morning show. So Great Day. If you ever know Great Day, 5 to 10, take a break for an hour, come back on uh for midday, 11 o'clock.

SPEAKER_05:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

Um so I got on in 2012 and I was doing the Great Day morning show with um my buddy Clayton Clark, and we would go out and do you know, spot news, adventures, and things like that to uh to businesses that are just open up or events that are happening. And Englens, they were um, I can't remember what they were doing at the moment. It may have been just kind of getting going with their, you know, really doing their wines and things like that, but they invited us out. We did the morning show from five to ten and um really got a hold of of uh Brett and Elena and became really good friends and um not only friends but family friends. I mean, me and my wife and my kids have been out there plenty of times if you invited us over if we've been to Brett's birthday bash. If you haven't got the invite, you're missing out. You're missing out. It is blessed.

SPEAKER_03:

You know everyone you have to take your boy.

SPEAKER_02:

Please. But I mean, um, Elena, she's such a nice person, she does the graphics and everything, and she had an idea, hey, we can print bottles because what I what I used to do before COVID hit, right? I used to have a youth football camp out in Hanford. Oh. So I would train kids uh age kindergarten or five, six, all the way up to high school, and they would come out for a day um and they would learn the fundamentals of football. And they would be able to take in uh training through ex-college players, NFL players, um, guys from Fresno State has come out there, guys who have played NFL, uh European ball, Canadian ball, and reading ball. Um, they come out, they teach the kids for a full day, it's non-contact. It's literally fundamentals, just instructional training how to run properly. And and Elena and then they were like, hey, we got an idea, you know, we want to put your and I I gotta get it. Hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Do your thing, do your thing.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know if you know this.

SPEAKER_03:

You got the wine bottles, yeah. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02:

So it's she printed the the logos for it to the Right Pensions Youth Football Camp. Wow right there. Yeah, and every year, so it it it ended up being like a um a raffle prize for the parents. So we we would do raffle prizes for all the kids, right? Right. But the parents was like, we want something too. Like, well, you guys can't, you know, can't join the kids, but let's have some. So we we did the raffle prizes for the for the bottles, yeah. You know, they're all different, and each year, so we just kept doing everything's different. So it's I'll give you guys those. You guys can take that home. What? Yeah, man. So that's that's local to local, right there. Yeah, so that's in every year we just kept doing it. Wow, that's how we just kept stayed locked in.

SPEAKER_04:

All right, yeah, that's an amazing story, man. So it seems like you've touched bases with a lot of different things, like you didn't just stick to one thing, like you've gone all across the map. I mean, with the news, and then obviously doing your own drone footage with the videography. Um, one question I got because when I was younger, my my dad used to take me out to uh go and fly like RC planes and drones and stuff. How hard is it for you to learn how to fly a drone? Because some people they just can't grasp it.

SPEAKER_02:

So you so the way that they that the drones are made now, yeah, you have to really be trying to wreck one of those things. Okay, because they got so much sensor, yeah. You got you got your sensor up there. I mean, it's it's so much features. Yeah, I mean you gotta be just a straight idiot to just crash into a tree or something, right? Which I've done.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, but I've done it live on air.

SPEAKER_02:

And uh, yeah, no, it wasn't good. But I mean, like I said, every every every lesson is is learned. So um it was funny. I went out while I was at Fox, they sent me and another uh photographer, Chris Costello, out to Florida to train under um some guys from Virginia Tech. Right so these are actual pilots. Not only are they drone pilots, but they fly commercially. Oh so we were out there for three days and we trained, I'm talking head intense training in the classroom for X amount of hours, out in the field, hands-on X amount of hours. We had to learn airspace, we had to learn traffic control, we had to learn weather patterns, we had to learn directional charts, sectional charts, we had to learn literally, we are one step away from being an actual pilot. Right. And we when you get a certificate and everything, so three days in Florida, came back, went to the uh Fresno Air Um uh airport, right? Uh took my test, passed, and um 2017 was flying, and ever since then, I've been taking my drone everywhere, man. Everywhere I go, everywhere. And it's crazy because with technology these days and how everything's so instant, right? I can be literally flying or just driving down the street in Fresno, any given day going up to 180, 99, 41, you're bound to see smoke somewhere. There's been plenty of times where I'm like, there's a fire, and then my kids are like, Hey Dad, I think something's on fire. Yeah, got your drone, let's go check it out.

SPEAKER_01:

So the kids are like, let's go check it.

SPEAKER_02:

So we're chasing fires and we'll put it up like 4th of July, we saw smoke. Of course, 4th of July, there's always fire. Yeah, and I put up the drone, saw big sparks, so we drove around, and and it was a massive uh field fire that was threatening a church, right? So I put the drone up, got some shots before uh the battery died, came home, uploaded the Instagram, and blew up tag, you know, fire department. But with everything being so you gotta you gotta share things like that night, right then and there, which is why we're here today. Yeah, what happens?

SPEAKER_04:

Yes, let's talk about that, man. Let's talk about that. So Saturday night, right? We had um RB night out at the Fresno Fair. That was pretty intense. I mean, yes, the vibes were there. We got to see a lot of local artists, a lot of people who I've never met before, but some people we ran into before at uh art hop, like me and May. That was crazy, right? Because at first I was like, wait, that that's me. I was like, what? And then um shout out her father. Um, I mean, his photography is amazing. He's really good. He's a teacher, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, he's a music teacher.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, a videography teacher, yeah. Yeah, and I when he said that, I was like, there's no way. I took videography uh classes in high school, which kind of helped me get to the points where I'm at now with videography. And I'm not sure. I went to Central East.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, yeah, sure. I'm Central East.

SPEAKER_04:

So and uh I learned a few things, it was just a basic one-year class, but I took that and I ended up establishing that from like playing Forza Horizon with the drone camera on there and filming some of the homies when they're drifting around the track, and then turning it into a real life thing and making my content on Instagram. So but yeah, I mean RB night out was crazy. Um, I feel like being able to meet all these famous people was amazing. It was cool.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, and just and then just to be in the presence of like they see you as as equal. Yeah, like some level of respect. Uh shout out to Lloyd because that's one of the one of the people that was like so. I love the energy. Yeah, and he goes backstage and it's like, whoa, what the fuck? And I'm like stuck like like I want to say something, but I'm like, yes, yes, and then he came from the crowd too.

SPEAKER_04:

I was like, wait, he's not coming from backstage, he came from the middle of the crowd all the way down to the stage, and I was like, You don't care about the same thing. Like, yeah, yeah, super chill guy, super loving guy. Like, it's hard to hate him. You can't you who who can really hate him, bro? Right, yeah, absolutely. And then uh, I mean, dude, I can't wait to see them some of them shots you got.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh man, yeah, I'm I'm safeguarding those things. Yeah, I gotta I gotta hope it. Well, first, I mean, thank you to to Brad Darique for sure for bringing me on. Uh great promoter in the valley, statewide, nationwide. If anybody, local artists, nationwide artists, overseas, anybody want to come to Fresno, go through Brad Darique. Yeah, his staff is great, his management is great. Any, I've heard he has some pretty cool photographers and videographers that like to get close shots and cause him trouble. I don't know, but good content.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, amazing content. And I feel like um, I think we need more of it. I think we need more local people to come in and showcase their art there. I feel like the Fresno Fair is like the perfect spot, yeah, especially someone who's born and raised in Fresno, or just people who have grown up in Fresno, and they're like, hey, all I need is a stage. Please give me the opportunity. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03:

And then talking to Brad that day, like when we got to really sit there and talk to him and take a shot of his bottle. Yeah, that would that was crazy. He said it's smooth. I was like, my hands. I know they they were all like sipping it slow, and then I'm right there, Mexican blood, like nothing.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm like round two, let's go. He was like, Are we gonna start drinking?

SPEAKER_03:

Bro, oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, no, Brad, whenever whenever Brad's around, there's there's definitely a bottle somewhere. It's like hooked up, like IV. Another shot. I'm like, damn, bro.

SPEAKER_04:

We just let's go, let's do it.

SPEAKER_02:

We're having fun.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, that's the kind of guy you wanted at events, though.

SPEAKER_02:

You do that. You do. He definitely knows how to get get the crowd turned and the people backstage because without it, it's like crickets, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, and he's a super humble guy. I mean, that was our first time actually meeting him. Um, it was a short notice, you know, and and we really got out there and we got to make the most of it. Um oh my god, being on stage.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, well, shout out to Ralph Edwards for definitely because like showing the love and the appreciation. Like when we first got introduced to him, like Brad went up to him, was just like, This is Martin from the Broke Boys, right? And then he came up and he, you know, very generous and very genuine, uh, such a loving, hump, humbling human being, and just gave gave us the opportunity of like, hey, like, what is it that you guys do? Just having a casual conversation. Yeah, and I'm like, in my head, I'm like, this dude was on the voice, he's team Snoop Dogg, he got a death broke chain on, literally had the chain, bro.

SPEAKER_04:

I was like, Yeah, when I first walked up and I looked, I was like, is that a death broke or shit? Hold on now, that was wild, and he's super humble. Like, go up there, have a conversation with them, like really chill, dude. And then being able to like really showcase his artwork on the stage and those shots and then not even like we weren't planning on it, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Like, let's let's just let's reveal that because we were just like we met him, we were introduced to him, we had a great conversation, right? And then we just went on with our day, right? Right, and we were just getting content, and then he comes up to us again, he's just like, Hey, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get you guys on stage. What is your guys' full voice from Fresno? Okay, I'm gonna get you guys on stage, right? He's like, You guys are gonna hear, I'm gonna sing the song, and I was like, All right, cool. Like, all right, sure. And then there's a clip that we got, and DJ's just like holding the DJI, and he's just like, All right, Marn, go first. Yeah, Casey get in front, and he was like, We're all gonna go up there. I was like, All right, cool. That's dope. And it was just like a perfect clip of when he was just like, let me get the broke boys from Fresno, come up on him. Right. Perfect clip of us coming up, and you're already on stage.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah, I'm already doing the stuff. You're already doing news. It is and it's crazy because it's crazy how like I was telling you guys when we're talking back to how God works and how we've never met, well, besides you, right? You and and DJ, I have never DJ, right?

SPEAKER_04:

DJ, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I've never I've never met you and and the other KC. Yeah, but you guys have been sharing the shit out of my content, which I definitely appreciate. Um, because I was at the Fresno Fair for almost every day hustling. Because I mean, people who know me, I I usually do you know content on a regular, yeah, and it's I have a set price, whatever. But I was doing 50 buck reels at the fair.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, and you were the person who told me that too. You're like, you should sell your reels, and I was like, I'm not all that great. But then I seen the content that you were posting. I was like, see, now that's worth$50. I would pay$50.

SPEAKER_02:

And that's where, and it's like, see, I'm always, it's always busy, it kind of annoys me and my wife because I'm always thinking, you know, how can I turn this into that? Right. You know, which is the mindset now. It's like if you don't have a plan B, yeah, you're kind of asked out. You gotta have a backup for the backup, man.

SPEAKER_03:

So and it's hard to shut off that creative mind. Yeah, I I even think about it sometimes. Like we went to uh Frida's Cafe in downtown in Fulton, and we were sitting down, and DJ's just like, oh, I can already imagine like what I can get with the reels. And then in my head, I'm like, bringing the podcast equipment. I can already set this shit up right here. I'm already like getting creative with it.

SPEAKER_02:

But it's hard to turn off because it's on like uh my boy Patrick Andreas. I don't know if you guys know them, violinists. Yes, Fresno, he's always performing it, and I'm I always think of something like I'll call him up. I was like, Patrick, I got an idea. Patrick got an idea. And he's the one that's like, let's do it. What are we doing? Um right when COVID lifted, we had actually did a um a taco truck tour where he played, he we chose four different taco trucks. And at the time, he was actually instructing or training my daughter how to play the violin. So that was her lessons during COVID. So she learned how to play the violin. Um we selected four trucks, um, and we the money that was raised went to a musical camp that uh like a nonprofit organization. They needed instruments, yeah. So we teamed up with them. We were able to raise, I don't remember the total number, but my daughter played in the intermission. Right. She made about 400 bucks out of four days. So it's like we're teaching, but it's more than just you know music. We're teaching, we were getting people out of the home, out of the company because COVID was lifting. Right. We're teaching you know kids instruments, which they don't really get anymore. Right. But me as a father, I'm actually capturing the moment with my friend, my daughter, and showing her the business aspect of this too. Right. It's like pick up something you love, right, and it can take you anywhere.

SPEAKER_04:

Anywhere in this world, yes. So and then staying consistent with it too, because that's hard. I mean, times where you feel like, oh, I just I don't I feel like doing this today, like I don't have it in me today. Yeah, doing it that day when you feel like not doing it the most is what's going to either make or break you. Because there's been so many times I've dropped passions and dropped different things that I've been working on because I just didn't feel like doing it. And I'm just like, oh, I should have, I should have kept up with it. Yeah, because look how far I could have gone with it. That's it. That's it. Oh, that's amazing, though, man. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, but no, yeah. Running into you guys, it was it was meant to be because we were talking about the podcast, we're talking about doing content, yes, and that day it was your boy's birthday. Yeah, right? Yeah, C's birthday, yeah. Um, and actually, coincidentally, it's my dad's birthday yesterday. Oh so I was able to enjoy the time with my wife, call my dad the next day, right? And I actually spoke to my numbers or everything, numbers are crazy. Dad's birthday, talking to my brother, checking out the at the at the grocery store, bought a thing of milk, and I look and the expiration date, my brother's birthday, while I'm on the phone with him. It's like wow. All right, whatever. Um, you know, me and my wife have this thing where it's like we see a number pattern, you know, 3-3 222 and we're like we text each other whenever hey 33, you love you, blah blah blah. Yeah, and it's crazy because we start on if you guys noticed, but I checked the time when we started this podcast, it was 444.

SPEAKER_03:

Really? I don't know. No, I didn't even pay attention, but 444. Oh my god. But I believe in that though, because that's why I got 999 tatted on top.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, and I got the 333 on my arm too. Yeah, it's divisible, yes, yeah, it is numbers, numbers, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

My cousin has a has a whole following IC 109 where he goes different areas and he used to travel all throughout the country, all throughout the globe. Actually, he used to teach uh English at a university, if I'm not mistaken, in South Korea. Oh, yeah, and this is and I'm talking when I have there's a reason why things happen to certain people. Like I have uh my wife, she's amazing woman, God's favorite is what we is what we call her. Um but like my side of the family, my cousin I'm talking about, he was in he was in movies. I don't know if you remember uh Meteor Man. Yeah, he was a golden lord. What? So he had a little part where he came out, he was fighting um uh I forget the the main character. Um what's the main character who played Meteor Man?

SPEAKER_04:

Bro, um you know what's really crazy is I was just watching. Robert Townsend. Yes, okay, yes. Go ahead, go ahead. I was just watching a clip of that last week, bro. That's hooray.

SPEAKER_02:

Everything. I was supposed to have oh my god. So I don't know if you remember the part, they were fighting in the street and they're touching books and stuff. So there's a little kid that comes up and he's all he gets blown away, runs off. That's my cousin, Larry Wiggs. What? Black belt.

SPEAKER_04:

That's crazy. Crazy. This is small.

SPEAKER_02:

Now you gotta go back and watch it. Now I gotta go watch it when I get back home.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh uh Ninja Turtles, uh, the first one, Foot Clan. There's a part where Shredder is in the back room. It's like a real quick clip. Right. Foot clan is kind of left to the right of him. He's in the middle. On the left hand, if you're looking at the screen, obviously you can't see the face, but Foot Clan, that's my uncle. Oh yeah. Drexel. Oh my god. Yeah, so it's like that's time. You got people, man.

SPEAKER_04:

That's crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, so I I like those, those are the people I try to, you know, mirror my you know, people who are influential, people are doing positive things that they can be like, hey, that's my dad, that's my uncle. So now my kids are like, hey dad, when are you doing a video? What are you doing? Yeah, and and you know, fortunately, with with so much talent here, Tremendum Pictures. I don't know if you guys know Tremendum, local guys who are creators. Um, I think from they went to Clovis High graduates, uh, Travis, Travis, Travis and Chris. Uh, they started Tremendum Pictures. They've done uh the gallows, gallows part two that went into theaters, right? So I was actually an extra in gallows two, and I actually got to shoot and play an extra in a little short where they uh they spotted uh King Batch, you know, who King Batch is. So I just mind exactly. So he and I, if you go back on my story, so everything is coming full circle. Yeah, uh, King Batch, what's up? If you repost my stuff, um he we were filming in Clovis at the bicentennial park, yeah, and it's me and a buddy standing there, and then he jumps in and is like, follow her up there, blah blah blah. So that I'm like, these little things you gotta save because you never know, they're evergreen.

SPEAKER_04:

I didn't know King Batch was out here.

SPEAKER_02:

King Batch was out here, yeah. He was out here.

SPEAKER_03:

I saw the video that we reposted and not even that. I was like, what the heck, bro?

SPEAKER_02:

So yeah, we were we were filming a a short that that a series. I mean, I can't say too much because it obviously hasn't got picked up, but hopefully Netflix Hulu, somebody picks it up that way. We can have some, you know, some hometown celebrations. Like right. So we had a little uh and I can well I can't show you guys because it's this episode is brought to you by Never Trusted.

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SPEAKER_02:

I can't, but you know, let's just say hopefully.

SPEAKER_03:

Shut the camera down live done. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

X Files on live real quick. Hold on.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03:

But yeah, it's just you know, opportunities you get just make the most of oh, yeah, always, always absolutely being being a part of this for a while, like we found so many opportunities, and and being with Brad, that was one of them. That I was like, I'm not gonna take it up, I'm gonna do it. Yeah, um, it's just like we said, full circle, it's a full circle moment. Like, I I thought I was gonna run into you at the Fair's No Fair. Little did I know I was gonna run into you with Brad in the back, like that's That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and there's a reason why we hate we didn't do a podcast prior to this happening. Right, yeah. Who knows what we would have talked about? We've probably just been talking about the Cowboys defense, giving up the game and messing up next MVP season. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03:

What happened? Oh man.

SPEAKER_02:

But yeah, the the night, so we keep getting our traffic. Yeah, yeah. So before, so we'll backtrack. Um we got there.

SPEAKER_03:

We got on. Oh, you guys got there, my friend.

SPEAKER_02:

We got there first. Yeah, so me and my wife got there like around 5:30. We're rushing, thinking we're late. We actually got there at really good timing. Um, the artist was kind of running behind, yeah, got us a little more time to set up, got some drone shots.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, and then uh Mia May got her on stage. Like you said, talked to her dad. Awesome dude. Right. Um, and then Ralphie, I didn't even know he was a dude from The Voice, but it's crazy, full circle again. Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of the stuff has been popping up online. I'm like, this cat's from he's from Fresno, from the area. I was like, Oh yeah, we definitely voting for the boy. Yeah, yeah. Um, but you know, talking to him, I was like, I heard him backstage, I can't remember what he was singing, but he had hit a note, and I was like, okay, but I thought he was messing around. So I'm like, oh homeboy just mess around. And he's like, all right, you ready to go? I'm like, hold on, who's this guy? He's like, dude from the voice. I was like, oh that's right. So he got on stage, and I'm just like, hey, dude, just to give you a heads up. And this is what I do before any artist takes the stage, before you guys, you know, I like to go backstage and meet the artist and tell them right, I'm gonna get up-close shots, real personal shots that's gonna look good. Yeah, if you don't want it, let me know and I'll keep my distance. And I try to do that with every artist. Unfortunately, it didn't happen that night. Right. And, you know, I didn't get to introduce myself before going on. Um, but his team, before he went on, they was he was backstage. I'm trying to figure out what because everybody came up the ramp. Right. Everybody introduced up the ramp, right? And they did their performance. Lloyd came up on the ramp, uh, which was a great performer, man. Yeah, he could sing, yes, he could dance, dance, didn't have any extra people on stage. Right, right. He didn't have any auto-tune, no crazy stuff. He just great performer. Yes. And the fact that he jumped off no, he didn't jump off stage, he went back down the ramp, yeah, and he got involved with the crowd.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, he's taking pictures on people's stories.

SPEAKER_02:

When you have an artist like that who actually cares about the people who helped him get to where they're at, right, right, it means a lot much more. Yeah, yeah. I mean, because you're paying, you're paying however X amount of you know it was for the tickets for an experience. You're not paying to see the entertainer because you've seen them throughout your life. You're paying for one person lap time, chance, experience.

SPEAKER_04:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

And I've me and my wife have gone to many concerts, but the fact that now I can go from back row, middle row, pit to on stage, it's a totally different ball game.

SPEAKER_04:

And I think it's a huge misconception about like how it's set up for videographers and photographers. People are like, oh, you shouldn't be on a stage, but it's like, how do you think those amazing shots come out? Exactly when you see things like uh, for instance, when you're looking at rolling loud sets, those cameramen are not in the crowd. They're not in the crowd, they are on stage with those are the artists, but you know, I think that's just something that just needed to be clarified in terms of like how it's all set up in the backstage and being allowed to be on stage because they're not just gonna allow anybody. I mean, you see the security there, you can't just bum rush the stage as a fan and thinking you can get away with it.

SPEAKER_03:

Then you got the event security, then you got the people in the back that are security, then you got their teams, the artists security. Like, there's it's it's a lot.

SPEAKER_02:

There's a lot of stuff before he went on, like I said, his guys, they were great. I mean, he told me and Ribby, they said, Um, hey, just so you guys know, uh, we we want a clean set, right? We don't want you guys like all that. So I'm so I'm like, okay, so you got to clarify.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So do you want us on stage or not? Like, and he's like, well, when he comes out, he's gonna come up here. He has choreograbs. I don't want anybody in the way cooling. Bad done. I said, so afterwards, can we advance? Can we approach and get closer? Yeah, yeah, cool. Just keep it cool, you know? Right. Got a lot of dancers. All right, so he came up, and I promise I'll post everything. Yeah, um, but I'm so I got the I got the side on some right stage, and I see him coming through the through the curtain. So I'm like, okay, prompt set up perfect. Yeah, yeah. I try to make everything cinematic. So I see the flash of white. I'm like, okay, he got on the same outfit that he was dancing the mirror to back in the right, right, right, right, right. So he comes walking, so I kind of creep in and bam, stop. Get everything, but we can't stay out of the way. So we were we were, I was getting amazing footage. Yeah, five minutes in, going around, going around. His dancers left off stage, so he was just solo.

SPEAKER_05:

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02:

So I don't know if that kind of threw him off because he didn't have that cover of the two dancers. Right. So now, you know, it's a different dynamic when you're by yourself. I mean, right. Obviously, I'm not an artist, but right, things are missed, things you know, slip-ups and stuff when you don't have that extra, you know, kind of curtain around you.

SPEAKER_05:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

In the comments, people are saying that he said that he saw shadows or some. I don't know. I was out there for 10 minutes before I got kicked off. So whatever happened, I don't know. I didn't hear it. But in the video that I posted, it's it's cut short because I don't want you know stuff in the beginning. But I was getting crowd shots of the people in the pit having a good time. And when I pan over and up, I see him coming directly towards me. He doesn't have dancers on stage, so I'm not worried about them. Right. So I'm like, I'm just getting a great shot. So I'm I'm pushing into and I'm and I'm going, I'm he's coming right at me.

SPEAKER_05:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

And I noticed his whole demeanor just changed. And I'm like, this ain't gonna be good.

SPEAKER_04:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

And that's when he said, get the fuck off stage. Yeah. And I'm like, hold on. Like, and it and he said it, and it didn't really register because I've never been told that. Yeah, like you don't talk to a grown man like one.

SPEAKER_05:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

But then I'm like, okay, maybe I heard him wrong. Right. And the news photographer of me said, keep rolling, right? Because that's what you do.

SPEAKER_05:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, so I kept rolling, and from different angles that people was posting, you can see me in the back. I'm I'm retracting, yeah, and I'm all like, all right, he's he means it, but I'm still filming. Right. And that's when he goes into the state, but he turns around and says it again. But it wasn't until after the show when I went back into the footage and heard him say exactly what he said, which was he repeated himself, but he said the N-word at the end.

SPEAKER_04:

Right. That's when it was like, all right.

SPEAKER_02:

And from you know, different different races, you know, perceive the word differently. Me as a black man, I don't say it.

SPEAKER_05:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

Period. Like you will never hear it coming in my mouth.

SPEAKER_05:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

If I'm reciting words, obviously, yeah, and I'm you know, of the type, right, right, but I don't like using that word freely.

SPEAKER_04:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, so when he said that, it I was shocked because I heard it afterwards and I was like, oh no, I'm posing this. Yeah, there's there's no letdown for him. Right. Um, and then my wife is like, Are you sure you want to do it? You know, you and I'm like, nah, you know, he called me out in front of thousands of people, right? Not once. I gotta reciprocate twice, I gotta reciprocate.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And you know, I you know, being being in the age that we're in where things can go viral real quick, yeah, and artists are exposed, yeah. He got the bad end of it. Yeah, and you know, it just happened the way it did. And I even after the show, I even approached his staff, and then actually, when he said security, you know, get him off. I'm expecting somebody to come grab me. I looked around like, man, I'm walking up the state. Nobody comes and grab me. They're not just gonna, and his security wasn't doing all that, anyways. Um now, Lloyd's security guard, they were on top of things. Yeah, they were. Big man, shout out to him. Um, he was like, hey, back up, back up, we don't, you know. I'm like, all right, cool, bad. And then he left and he was like, he was comfortable seeing that I was just getting shots, and he just let me do my thing.

SPEAKER_04:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

And then after the show, like I said, I approached Lloyd and his people, they apologized. And I was like, well, if you guys want, I can go in and still get an interview. Right. If you want, you know, because I'm not I'm not bitter. I still want to show him, you know, I did capture the moment. I got great shots of you that you can use to help you get more bookings and stuff. It's just they didn't want to, so I'm like, all right, I'm cool, I'm going home. I'm gonna go to you know, Chicken Charlie, get me something, go to Green and get me to go home.

SPEAKER_03:

So yeah, that's what happened. That's crazy because from our perspective, um DJ and KC, they were in the front of the crowd, right? Yeah, and you got and they were getting shots of the whole crowd, they were getting shots of the artist. I was on the side um in the barrier with uh Ralph. Me and him were next to each other, we're just in vibing, and we hear that whole commotion happen. Yeah, and that's when at that moment that we were both like, uh, you know what, that's uh that ruins a vibe, that's the cue to to take off. Uh, he was even like, yeah, like uh I'm I'm ready. I'm I gotta go perform.

SPEAKER_02:

Like yeah, and if you know, I mean, anybody who knows Fresno, we don't play around when it comes to our own.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm telling you, when I got off the stage, not even five minutes, I went back because I was I was done. I was like, I don't want to film anything else. That killed everything for me. Like coming from I'm glad, you know, I'm glad it happened the way it did. Because if that would have happened, if Lloyd was the headliner and that happened before Lloyd, I wouldn't, I would, everything would have been off. Yeah, so Lloyd not being the headliner, it kind of worked in his favor. It really did. I was able to actually go backstage and have a really deep conversation with Lloyd, right? Um, and and just off camera, everything off, just genuine dude, talking about being a girl dad, talking about having two kids, being um just being a humble dude. And he is funny because I came backstage and he looked at the rig I had. He was like, Oh, that's a dope ass camera. He's like, hold on. Yeah, that's an iPhone. I'm like, yeah, man, that's the i the iPhone. That's all I take with me, the iPhone. Every time you see me, I got my whole production in my pocket. Right, that's right. He was like, that's dope. He was like, man, and and that's that's all I do is iPhone and and you know, having that meaningful conversation and and just learning who Lloyd was behind the music, behind the mic was just it was once in a lifetime for me. So yeah, I definitely appreciate that. Lloyd hats off, man.

SPEAKER_04:

Man, super respectable guy. I mean, that was my first time ever meeting him. At first I didn't recognize them because I was like, I've always heard his music and stuff, and then I was like, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_02:

And then he didn't have hair. Yeah, yeah, you always hear it with braids.

SPEAKER_04:

So that's why I was just like, wait a minute, that's Lloyd, but nonetheless, the dude went up there, he performed, he did his thing, he was smiling, his vibe was just so natural.

SPEAKER_02:

I was having a good time, and the fact that he took well, he didn't do it on stage, he did it behind the he talked about the importance of women and how they made a big impact in his life, and you know, his mom and sister and everything. And you know, it's it's it's unique because it it touched to me because my wife's been with me, we've been together for over 20 years, and you know, her sisters, her mom, and everybody has brought me in as their own. Right. Um, because I don't have any sisters, but I have gained two sisters through her, right? And it's like as soon as they seen that, oh, they were ready. Yeah, they were ready to tell them, all right what we gotta do. They have the family in the truck ready, like, hey, need to come. They're coming from Hamford, so they're like, if I was impressed, uh, Hamford can get the family ready. No. But now people impressed, they did not play about their own people. Oh, no, they don't. We had people, and not just people, Lloyd. I mean, Lloyd, Mario doesn't know how many, I and I don't, I'm not trying to incite violence, but how many bulldogs I had to calm down, and those are just the alums, right? Not the street bulldogs. These were like graduated bulldogs. My wife was one. I was standing by her nigga all the whole night, and she said, Hey, I got my uh I got my Doug Martins laced up. What we gotta do is tell you some big boobs, but no, just the fact that you know I had people reaching out um and saying, Hey man, that's that was messed up. What happened? We know your work, you know, you do great stuff, and just just the love that even for us too.

SPEAKER_03:

Like when we saw you, we we I approached you too. I was just like, Hey man, that wasn't cool, man. But are you good? Everything all good?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, no, you guys were right there.

SPEAKER_03:

You guys saw what happened.

SPEAKER_04:

I was like, hey, you still got the shot though.

SPEAKER_01:

I was like, maybe what he should have done was kicking off like 20 minutes earlier, but I got everything done.

SPEAKER_04:

And that was the wildest part too, because uh I was in the front, like in the front of the stage, and I was recording everything. So from when he said it, like the first time he said it, I didn't hear it. I was like, wait, what? And so I kept filming and he double backed and he did it again. I was like, I looked to my right, Kesi's gone. Yeah, bro's just gone. I'm like, uh, let me turn the DJI off. I'm gonna go back stage.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, because then I see you both come in, and Kesy's I was like, that's our cue to leave, man.

SPEAKER_02:

Come on. You know, and it's and it's sad that it happened, and we don't wish any negativity towards Mario. He's a great dude. I mean, he goes back to the late 90s, early 2000s. He was hard. I mean, shoot, people people enjoy this music. Yeah, I enjoy Lloyd's more, but yeah, you know, that's just preference. But I mean, the fact that it came off that way, I I feel bad that it happened, right? And that, you know, I captured it, but at the same time, I have a job to do as well. I'm not I'm not somebody who ran up on stage, who didn't have past credentials, who are just some random person with an iPhone as it comes to no, I was I was hired through Brad to do a job, right? And I'm gonna do it the best that I can, and that's every time, you know. It doesn't matter if there's if it's a known artist, if it's a no-known artist, I'm gonna give you the best shots that you've probably ever gotten. So that's what happened.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I mean, absolutely, man. And the craziest part is too, is I thought about that. I said, well, if even if you didn't capture it, the crowd definitely captured it. There's so many TikTok videos that popped up this morning.

SPEAKER_03:

There was a lot of TikTok videos. Yes. Yes. It was hard, it was it was hard to see. Even my mother-in-law, she was in the crowd. She said right after that, just everybody had the same vibe of like, uh, this is not right. Like, uh, you know what? Like, I think it's time for everybody to go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And it's crazy because right when I I was posting it, I was sitting, it was I was probably about 10 yards away from from uh from Mario when I was posting it, and my wife's like, he's right there, you know.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm like, oh yeah, I was right there when you kicked me off the stage.

SPEAKER_02:

So I'm like, no, I'm not holding this. So I went in, I I I was gonna post it, but I remember captions work. Yeah, I went in, used Cap Cut, captioned real quick, bam, threw it up, and then um closed out the app. By the time I got from the fair to 10 minutes away, 15 minutes away, it was already like at 10,000.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02:

I said, babe, check this out. By the time I got from because we stopped at the gas station, right on the corner, I got from the gas station to home, it went from 10,000 to 20,000.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02:

I went to bed like maybe midnight, one o'clock. It was already at 90. By the time I woke up, it was out of control. Yeah, it was like a forest fire. Like we were at 100,000, 200,000, and then they weren't coming by the hundred, they're coming by the thousand. Yeah. Shares. And then I went in and typed in uh I clicked on the verified comments, right? Tony Ao, uh, you see um uh Louie the singer from Texas, and people who, you know, who's been around, who's known as well. You know, I just shot Louie and Aaron Fresno at the two chancing. He was a great dude. I'm all in the space. He said, you know, wherever I go, you go. So he's jumping off to the speaker. I'm jumping off with him, like, I won't be going. Yeah, um, but yeah, just the fact that to see people who I grew up listening to, yeah, having my back is like, man, crazy.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, crazy. I will say too, I woke up the next morning with everything crazy messages from messages from Keesy. Um, and uh and some of the some people were like saying that you were part of the Broke Boys, yeah, and throwing me in there like, oh, the dude from Broke Boys got kicked off stage. And I was like, and I had family calling me and my sister, this is a conversation with my sister. I'm gonna remember this. She calls and she's like, Hey Martin, are you good? Are you I was like, What do you what do you mean I'm good?

SPEAKER_02:

I had I had a I had a uh a childhood friend call me up and I missed the call and I was like, Oh shoot, he called me, and so I called him back. First thing he said, he didn't say hair, he said, I got him in the back of the trunk. What you doing, though? I said, man, come on. You can't be talking like that, man. But no, just like you said, people had you back, man. It's it's good to know that you can.

SPEAKER_04:

It's good to know that the community is there for everybody. No, I got a question. If Mario was to come back next year, well, let's just say hypothetically, he was to come back next year for another event. Would you shoot for him?

SPEAKER_02:

I'm there. I'm there. My job is not to shun an artist. Right. Because we don't know what they're going through. Yeah. I mean, he could be, he could have had some shit happen to him on the way to Fresno. Yeah. We know how that 99 is. He could have pissed him off. Shoot. Somebody would have just cut him off. Yeah, you know, people in Fresno cannot drive, but that's a different subject. Yeah. But um, no telling what could have happened. So I mean, I give artists a leeway because we, I mean, we see what happened to people like Kanye West, people who were misunderstood, yeah, that they kind of fall off the the wayside because people just they're all they're quick to throw judgment at them. They're quick to throw judgment, quick to throw shade, not knowing who the actual person is. So yeah, Mario came back. If he wanted to fly me out somewhere, I don't know where his next concert is, I'll definitely go out, man, for sure. Make it make it worth it. I mean, I'm not doing nothing for free. Obviously, free don't pay bills, but yeah, but if he wanted me to get some some shots and invite me back on stage, I don't know if I can wear the shirt or not. But um, but I definitely I would definitely come and and grab some shots. Yeah, for sure. You know, I'm not a salty type.

SPEAKER_04:

Right, right. I just wanted to ask that question because I think a lot of people may feel like, oh, there's animosity, like, oh, he probably hates them. And I think a lot of it too is just like the miscommunication of what he was expecting videographers to do and what the stage performers were supposed to do, yeah, and then what you know, Brad and his team and you know, the people from Fresno Fair wanted us to do. Um, and I think that that's all it really was. Yeah, no, that's all it was.

SPEAKER_02:

It was misunderstanding. I mean, and it sucks because Brad had to take the brunt of it. You know, he was doing the cleanup with his PR team, with with uh Mario's uh management team, and it's like at the end of the day, you know, you just want to go home, yeah, take a shot again if you're Brad, it goes to sleep, you know. But but when you're up at midnight, because he Brad and I were texting at from like 11 to midnight, like, dude, it's gonna be a headache. I'm like, Brad, don't look at it as a headache, right? Look at it as an opportunity, yeah. Because from now on, people are gonna see it's not your job to book, it's your job to book talent.

SPEAKER_04:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

It's not your job to book a personality, right? Right. Because that's gonna come and go regardless. But if you book a talent, people are gonna expect the best. And when you got a name like Brad, people are gonna be like, oh yeah, it's gonna be a good performance. Right, right. So, I mean, I still tell him it's like I understand you know, there's a business level, there's a personal level, and sometimes those those those mix. And I let the personal side get a hold of me, and I was like, nah, fuck, I'm posting it. Yeah, but on the business side, I'm like, oh, I didn't really expect it to come back on Brad. Right, right, I don't want that for him. So, you know, like I said, apologize to him, but I'd still love to, you know, work for him, work for Mario, Mark for Void, anybody that wants to come. I mean, shoot, E40 is coming to Fresno in a month. I love to say with you, E40 shoot. Bad bunny's gonna be in San Francisco, Super Bowl's in San Francisco, right? Yeah, that's weird. That's the only thing. Bad bunny.

SPEAKER_03:

Come on, Benny. I've been working on it. I've been working on trying to beat you, bro. Come on.

SPEAKER_02:

Working on my Spanish, everything. So, yeah, definitely. I I any doors that open up from this, you know, I am I'm humbled by it. I'm uh I'm just one blessed that my work is finally starting to see the light and people are starting to appreciate it. That's all. I mean, accolades, they come and go, you know, but I've been blessed to be, you know, in the area and and win awards. I've I I got an Emmy. I've been I got an award for 40 under 40 for Fresno's Best in a business journal before I was even 30 years old.

SPEAKER_04:

Wow.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, you know, being able to be in these young kids' life through the through the youth football camp where you know, the very first one I had, one of the kids is now the head football coach at my rival school and they're just winning championships. So I mean, I'm like all over, you know, my daughter's doing great in school, my son's doing great, my wife, she's starting her own business, nail business, so right here in the house. Um, you know, and that's that's the joy of being able to work for yourself. One, but showing your family that you don't have to work for people, you can make an income by yourself doing what you love.

SPEAKER_04:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02:

And you know, dude, I was I always show my kids, you know, the videos and they're critiquing, like, damn, that's that's true. The kids are truthful. Yes, they are. My daughter, she has, she got into editing, she has her own YouTube channel, and she's like, Dad, I don't know about that transition. You should probably tweak it a little bit. And my son's like, yeah, whatever, and then goes back to playing Robox. But he was he was in bed, and that's the that's the you know, the the the down part of the night wasn't that I got kicked off stage. You know, I'm a grown man, I can handle myself. But yeah, I was watching the video and my son put my son to bed, right? And he heard Lloyd call me the N-word. And as a six-year-old, hearing especially when you're trying to maintain that level of him called me that, and he was like, Why are you gonna do that?

SPEAKER_03:

That's hard.

SPEAKER_02:

You can't control everything.

SPEAKER_03:

You can't control everything. That's the brutal world that we live in today as a society.

SPEAKER_02:

So, you know, he he was like, you know, he didn't have to say that, you know, he could have just let you do your job and he could have song the song, and then it's like for a six-year-old to understand that you don't treat people that priceless, priceless. That is insane. And that's what we try to be, you know, is as a as a man, you know, as a as a woman, the best thing and the most respectable thing and honorable thing is is to bear a child. But as a man, the best thing you can do is be a great father, right? And that's what you know I try to do every day, you know. We may slip up and don't show them enough, you know, attention on a daily but the thing that I get from being a father every day is them calling me dad.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, have that respect for them too, because I mean there's a lot of fathers out there who don't it's a lot of sacrifice. I can't imagine what it's like to be a father.

SPEAKER_03:

I know hopefully one day I will, but I know that you know uh the lack of not having one or the lack of not having somebody present with you is hard. It is, it is, but it inspires you to be a better version of yourself and be a better version for the future uh legacy that you're building. And the beauty of it at the end of the day is that you are such a great father. You are doing these things, you're showing him the positives, and you're still you're showing everybody what you can do and what you showcase. That's true.

SPEAKER_02:

You know, I'm able to I'm able now that I'm I'm out of the you know the news sector and everything, I'm able to take my kids wherever I go. Like, all right, kids, let's go make this money real quick. So they get this you get to see how the business is ran, how to interact with people. Because people, like I told you guys, people don't know how to talk to each other anymore. Right, they don't know how to how to how to hold a conversation, how to be respectful, how to hold your head up and eyes, you know, contact while you're while you're talking to people. And it's just like it's a loss, it's lost and it's sad. So I always tell my daughter, she goes out her way to say, uh, you know, anybody in uniform, thank you for their service. My son knows to open the door for his sister, for his mom. You know, if and there's been times where arms armed servicemen, um, whether it be police officer, whatever, they'll be in Starbucks, whatever, I'll buy him lunch. There was a it might backfire on me when I was at a taco restaurant. Army man came in and I was like, gotta buy him lunch. And uh I was like, hey man, what you what you getting? I'll take care of it. He's like, Oh, you sure? I was like, Yeah, man, whatever. He said, All right. He had like an$80, it was he was ordering for the whole unit. I was like, oh shit. I was like, well, I'm already in. Uh I don't want to hear the ads on be like, oh, go get one. But it's like, it's is it makes you feel much better knowing that you were able to provide for those who have provided for you know your your safety for so many others, you know, and able, you know, being able to provide those things, it makes you feel good that you can provide that. So right, right. I definitely, definitely enjoy that.

SPEAKER_04:

Absolutely, man. That's amazing. That's beautiful to see, man. And uh, I mean, again, I think it was amazing being able to hear your side of the story in regards to what happened that night. I think a lot of the people needed to hear that. Uh, I think a lot of the other people also need to listen to that. It wasn't me, dude.

SPEAKER_05:

It wasn't him, it wasn't him, it wasn't DJ, it wasn't Keesy.

SPEAKER_04:

That that was the craziest part was waking up and looking at TikTok and seeing everybody be like, oh, it's a guy from Brooke Boys. And it was like, and I'm sitting here watching the video, like, was I up there?

SPEAKER_03:

Like, and and I don't know. There was a post that I had like months back, and then somebody commented, get off the stage.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I was just like that's gonna be the trending uh hashtag for the the rest of the month, hopefully.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And then with Halloween coming up, I already got my outfit ready, so I'm just gonna walk outside. Walk outside, just stand on the stage. Hey, if for any local artists or nationally artists, if you guys want to book a man just to stand on stage, I don't even care. I'll make my camera.

SPEAKER_03:

We can reenact the whole scene.

SPEAKER_02:

Hey, that goes for content creators. If you want to reenact something, uh yeah, anybody. Uh i show speed, Mr. Beast, uh, Adam. You guys, let's go, man. I'm ready. Strike while iron's hot.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes. Is there anywhere that any place that they can find the shirt?

SPEAKER_02:

So the this is one of one right here. Okay. I don't know if this is gonna be like an auction item. Okay, or I did put a poll online to see who wants to buy them. Okay. And last I looked, there was like 70-something people that wanted to pre-order. Dang. So I don't know. We'll see. I might have to create a uh a little link to have people go out there. I don't know. You guys, would you guys pay for them?

SPEAKER_04:

Brother, I'd probably buy like five of them, like online. Imagine a whole group of them, a whole group of us in a crowd, just man, that would be awesome.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I can imagine like the people just walking down like I don't know, Van S Fulton shirts, getting a drone shot of that. Right. We need to make that happen. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I think so. Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_02:

You know what's crazy? I when I posted it to Instagram, I didn't even think of TikTok. And the wife was like, that'd probably do good on TikTok. Oh, yeah. And I have it's crazy because my TikTok has been like dead for the past like years or whatever. So I put it up, and I the last I looked, it was at over half a million. So total, total, we got close to two million. Jesus and that's it's growing, man. It's growing. But yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, other than that, man, I think uh I think it was a successful night. Other than that, situation. Um, again, big shout out to Brad, man. Brad, you you really you made that happen. You made a huge, huge, successful night happen. I mean, the nostalgia of hearing Lloyd perform, even watching uh Mia May perform was kind of like that was my first time seeing her in person performing.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, and don't forget about Nivea.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, Nivea too, too. Nivea too. Yeah, and then Ralph Edwards to having us on stage, bro. Shout out to Ralph.

SPEAKER_02:

Ralph, go vote for him, the boys, Snoop Dogg Team Snoop Dogg, gotta do it.

SPEAKER_03:

Ralph killed it.

SPEAKER_02:

The the highlight of for me that night was I posted Fresno, obviously, is a big Mexican populated area, which is great. Love it. Yeah, um, my kids are biracial, and we try to teach them both sides of the black and white. I call it God's Photoshop. Best thing, man. So anytime I get we can teach them culture, arts, anything. We always travel. Um, but I posted a video of the crowd singing to Ramona Ayella, and anytime the song comes on, oh, everything stopped. You can be in the middle of a performance and you put that on, and it's just so I posted it and I tagged Ramona Ayala, and I'm like, he's not gonna see it. It was like 10 minutes later, he reposted it. He reposted it. I'm like, I kid you not. Yeah, I walked into my my wife's nail room and I was like, babe, El Rey de Accordion. He reposted, and I I couldn't, I I I became over overcome with joy, excitement, and I just started bawling. Yes, and it was just like It's like a milestone. Oh my god. Yeah, and the crazy thing is we talk about numbers, right? I met him 2015, I believe, in Hanford at the fair at the fairgrounds. I have a buddy, DJ Ordoley, who we go way back, way back. And uh he was like, hey man, he saw me in the crowd. I was like, hey, is there any way I can get on stage and film? That's like my my greatest uh musician in the in the Latin world.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I'll get you up. So I get on stage, I grab my iPhone, I start filming. Well, no, no, at that time it was an actual camera. Grab it, start shooting, and great, great dude, great guy. I had my uh my little sister at the time, um Patricia, and uh I said, hey, you want to do an interview? And she's like, I think 12 at the time. Biggest moment of her life. Yeah. We go backstage and she's the she's the interpreter for me, and we talk about you know being in Hanford and and and doing shows and blah blah blah. Great interview. That was that was October 15th, I believe 2017. We're in what month?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, we're in October.

SPEAKER_02:

October. Yeah, like 13th, 13th, almost the same eight years to the day. Wow. Now I'm telling you. It's crazy. It's crazy. This and this and I mean just to keep going on that, September of 2016, which I was telling you guys earlier, the first viral went video I went through was in September. Well, that video that went viral, it was Rob the Rib Man. You guys can check that out on my YouTube page. That got X amount of million views. Um, first person that called me was Jimmy Kimmel live. Wow. And they're trying to get a hold of me, bring me out to the show because a few a year before that, I don't know if you guys remember Kai, the axe-wielding hitchhiker.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_02:

So that that story, I just missed it by like 10 minutes. I had just clocked out. I was on my way home. Assignment desk comes. Hey, Ryan, where you at? I'm like, dude, I'm already, I'm not trying to do anything else. Sometimes I'll call you back if it's big enough. Say, hey, we got somebody who was a tag, blah, blah, blah. This guy has an axe. He's like, Don't worry about it, you already home. I was like, You sure? He's like, Yeah. Next thing I know, that goes viral. I'm like, dang, that could have been me, Netflix, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, Jimmy Kimmel, September, whatever. Jimmy Kimmel just got kicked off, right? In September, full circle. And I was like, I went through my drawer because I keep everything, and I still have their handwritten card from Jimmy Kimmel's team.

SPEAKER_03:

Right.

SPEAKER_02:

And I'm like, dude, there's a reason for everything. And the the two networks that hired him on last, yeah. I don't hired him on, but brought him back last, Nextstar and um uh Nextstar and I forget the other one. But I work for both of those stations, right? Um, you know, through local, uh Sinclair, Sinclair and Nextstar. And those are the last two that brought the show back, syndicated everything, and it's like full circle. Right. It's crazy. Wow. It's crazy. So, Jimmy Kimmel, if you're listening, I'd love to come on your show. Talk about some things.

SPEAKER_03:

Jimmy, seeing the viral clip by name and I might have in.

SPEAKER_02:

Telling you, man. Telling you. So everything happens for a reason, man. Yeah, it happens for a reason.

SPEAKER_03:

This is uh a blessing. Thank you for being on, bro. Thank you for coming on. And uh I'm glad that we can make this work. Yes, for sure. And uh if there's anything that you want to say, some inspiration or anything that you would love to tell the people that are watching at home at the gym.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, I don't know where everybody's listening, but um yeah, no, just thank you guys for taking on the time of your day and and one putting putting me on, putting Central Valley on, and all things, all things Fresno. Uh just being in the know. I mean, because without you guys and your platform, other artists and other creators, they don't have a voice. Um, everything is is so digital, but without people getting in front of the camera, they don't know who you are. So you guys bringing me on is is a great thing. I appreciate that. Um, Brad Drikey, once again, can't thank him enough. Lloyd, thank you, thank you for being one, the artist, but two, the man that you are, and and pulling people aside, sharing your interaction, your energy with the crowd, with myself, my wife. Um, can't thank you enough, brother. Uh Ralph, good luck on the voice, Team Snoop. Um, everybody else who performed, guys killed it, and I'm looking forward to the next one, man. So yeah, any any artist that need an on-camera cameraman that's not uh not afraid to get those shots, let me know. I'm ready. That's right.

SPEAKER_04:

That's right. And if you guys don't follow them already from the Broke Boys page, give them a follow. Where can we find you?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh, the air up there um on Instagram, the air up there 224 is my original one. It got hacked, they screwed it up, tried to start all over. It's all good. And uh, I'm on Instagram, TikTok as well. Uh, the air up there, same thing. Um, yeah, if you guys I'm still doing uh I'm not doing$50 reels anymore. Um, like uh like Fat Joe said, yesterday's price, not today's price. So it's a$50 reel to come on, sorry. Special has close. But yeah, no, anybody who wants to do a collab, anybody who wants to, you know, share their their their their restaurant, their their specialty, anything. I'm I'm ready to capture all the time, ready to go.

SPEAKER_03:

Absolutely. We will thank you guys for staying tuned for another episode. We love you guys much love.

SPEAKER_02:

Start to be on sale soon. Stay tuned.

SPEAKER_03:

Stay tuned.

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