Broke Boyz From Fresno
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Broke Boyz From Fresno
Manifesting Your Musical Vision: A Conversation with Fake Mango
Nick Tesi, the creative force behind Fake Mango, joins us to share his journey creating a new genre called "mango pop" and his upcoming performance at Dog Daze Festival.
• Started playing guitar at age 9 despite early frustrations (including biting his guitar)
• Creating music for over four years as Fake Mango, blending acoustic foundations with electronic elements
• Recently released single "Babe, I'm a Cowboy" with new single "Trying Okay" dropping September 5th
• Performing at the Dog Daze Festival in Fresno on September 6th
• Emphasizes the importance of listening to your inner voice and creating content you personally enjoy
• Advocates for creating sacred alone time away from digital distractions
• Believes in making Fresno's downtown vibrant through local creative initiatives
• Focuses on surrounding yourself with supportive, like-minded people
Come see Fake Mango perform at Dog Daze Festival on September 6th. Tickets are $50, and you can find more of his music on Instagram @fakemango.
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Christmas Intro Song by Nico
We them broke boys from the hood. We on them, missions understood, won't catch us lacking. We that good, we always winning, like we should. We flying high, we butterfly up to the sky.
Speaker 2:No way you catching us goodbye, pretty God, we make it out alive. You know, I wish we would have talked about that. We already talked about it, exactly exactly. Yeah, dude, I'm excited. You know, I wish we would have talked about that.
Speaker 3:We already talked about it, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, I'm excited. Heck, yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're excited too. I feel like I told DJ this the other day. I feel like we just unlocked a whole new level after this season. Because I've done this for the past two seasons and it's been working. Everything's been moving and grooving and then, right when we hit the third season, it was like hold on bro. Break up the gear.
Speaker 3:The third season came in and it was just a slew of opportunities just one after another, after another. There was no time to strap in and get ready Never.
Speaker 2:There never is, bro. Yeah, you got to be prepared. Yeah, and the ball is, and sometimes you've just got to fucking say yes, yes, you know.
Speaker 1:And that's what we've been doing. Let's save it for the podcast, bro.
Speaker 2:We're already rolling, let's roll it.
Speaker 1:But, like very early on, I told DJ too. I was just like I'm telling you this right now because we always conversate, we always have deep talks. I was just like you're going to be my manager. I was like, when the time comes, we're both going to know, when the time comes, that you're going to be into this position. And at the time he was still working at a different company before he was at this job and he was just like well, I hope I get another job.
Speaker 1:That way I have more time for this, bro, but I have faith that we are going to be into this position.
Speaker 3:I literally put it into the universe, bro, I literally, bro, I literally was like, bro, I can't be your manager, like I'm working fucking 60 hours a week, 12 hour shifts, five days a week, and I'm like I can't do it, like there's no way. And then I like the job was just so miserable, yeah, that it forced me to go somewhere else. And the job I have now allows me to work around like I can go to work, do what I gotta do after work still, go home, eat, sleep, get a good night's rest and do what I gotta do. So it's like, bro, I I don't know how that happened it just.
Speaker 1:We manifested it for the longest and yeah, and me and dj, we've always been in the same wavelength of like fuck, if something's going bad, then we talk about it. Then we are like it's like a quick debrief, and then it's always like a motivation afterwards like come on, bro, like we've been through this, yeah, one too many times right but we lean on one of you, on one another, and we're gonna excel and we're gonna make it past it.
Speaker 1:Watch, yes, and sure enough, every time that we say it, it's always just like fuck, you were right, yeah, fuck, here we go, and then again, like he said, he literally put in the best perspective. We didn't have time to strap in for this season at all it felt like, oh shit, like here we go.
Speaker 1:It was a roller coaster that we're going and we're still riding this high. Right now, it's just like, okay, we're making sacrifices, we're making time, we literally work full time and we do this full time. So everything's, going to come back in full circle.
Speaker 3:So, and just to begin with, I mean, let's talk about who we have right in front of us here on this camera. So this is the face of fake mango yo yo. So go ahead and introduce yourself. What do you do?
Speaker 2:what's up? Um, I'm nick. My name is nick tessie. Uh, I have a project right now called fake mango and, um, I just I just make pop songs and I make them with my friends sometimes, but this is a project I've been working on for about like four years now.
Speaker 3:Got it.
Speaker 2:And now we're here in 2025, at a time in my life, kind of what you guys were talking about and just like saying yes to the thing, saying yes to the thing that you always knew in the back of your mind or in your heart you know deeper, like that you know you were meant to do or that you love to do. That you were meant to do or that you love to do, even if, just like you guys were saying, getting to so many points in your life where you got to make that decision, this was that last time I'm like, yes, I'm just going to do it because, especially with the state of the world right now, who knows how long we got left.
Speaker 2:Let's do something cool, that's real.
Speaker 1:That's real, and why not do something that you love, one that you're passionate for?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm just, I'm a son, I'm a brother, I'm a friend, I'm a believer and I'm a musician and an artist a little bit. Well said, well said man Well said.
Speaker 3:Well said, man Well said. You have any upcoming projects that you will be releasing soon, anything that people can look?
Speaker 2:forward to Totally yeah. So a couple weeks ago I just released my first single with a couple buddies and it's called Babe, I'm a Cowboy and though it might sound like a country song, it is not. It's like an indie pop, electronic song. And it's funny when people ask me what genre, whether they've heard the music or not, my friends will be like what style are you?
Speaker 2:And that's always a tough question, I feel like for a lot of artists question, I feel like for a lot of artists, but um the blend of styles and just you know the name fake mango, I'm calling it mango pop.
Speaker 3:So um, trademark. You're at the forefront of something brand new.
Speaker 2:Like this has not been done before like yeah, man, I mean, uh, I don't know if this there's no specific sound, I know that Right.
Speaker 2:And like the next song I'm coming out with that'll be out September 5th, it's a very eclectic sound like in itself, just this song, okay, song, okay. The song's called trying okay and uh, you know, it's just all the names of the songs or or the lyrics or the intent behind all the all these songs. Um, they're definitely just like moments in my life, like I wrote this song, uh and recorded it three, four years ago now, when I was living in bakersfield and uh had no-Fi, like couldn't get Wi-Fi to the building, my cell signal was like nothing.
Speaker 2:So I was just in this little apartment, you know, working, but just like locked in you know, I had just gotten a new laptop, I just started learning a new program, a new music-making program, and so what I'm working on currently like outside of that next single coming out, and that's a broad range of sounds it's like from acoustic to like it's got a hard drop in it.
Speaker 2:That shouldn't be there but works, you know yeah it's diverse yeah it's diverse, uh, and but yeah, outside of that, um, I'm planning to release at least something every every month, like every three to four weeks, whether that's a single or a song in a video or two songs.
Speaker 2:Um, right now that's the plan and uh, lining up shows. Now we're finishing all the visuals. Um, I've got a buddy helping me with that and uh, yeah, just gonna try to keep the content going, because that was something I was never really good about in the past. Online these days, you have to stay consistent and to stay relevant and you have to not care what anyone thinks, exactly Whether you think it's cringe or whatever you just got to do it, you have to pass that barricade.
Speaker 1:And the other thing that I've found out, too, of creating content is you have to remember that you love it right, right, if you make a reel and you enjoy it.
Speaker 2:You're just like oh, you'll sit there and you'll continue watching it be, like wow, I created this right, it doesn't matter how many people watch it like it whether it gets one view, whether it gets a thousand views or gets more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, knowing that you created something that you enjoy, and you're just like wow, I made this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's the beauty of it totally, because I mean, you know it's like what are you doing it for? Anyway?
Speaker 3:yeah, you know you always got to remember your why, like why you, why you started it, why you you're doing it, how far you see yourself after you started and where you want to be you know, yeah, it's huge, it's um.
Speaker 3:Me and him have had that talk so many times. It's insane. Like I, I didn't anticipate us to be in this area of life. I was like, bro, we're doing what for dog days? And right, it's bigger than us. Like it's bigger than me. I can't even fathom like it. It still feels like a fever dream, yeah I'm sitting in front of a podcast camera. Uh, mind you, just three years ago all I was doing was working on my car, spending money, doing whatever I was doing back then.
Speaker 1:But trying to figure out how to make ends meet.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember those days yeah, none of this was planned out, none of this was like scripted, none of this was like oh, we got to do this, here's the next. There's no guidelines to none of this shit. You just go out and you do what you love, you find a passion and you just full steam ahead into it through the grit, through the dirt, through the tough times.
Speaker 1:All of it, bro it's and it's amazing to be here. It feels great, exactly, and how does it feel being a part of dog days?
Speaker 2:shoot man. I'm, uh, I'm really excited for dog days. Um, I'm excited, uh, not only to play it, but to witness something that you know for real, like like this is going to be a big thing, like for Fresno in general, like for the people, for the city. Um, you know, we've got chain smokers Indy or Pilo, summer Ray and more coming to where I used to go watch the Grizzlies play baseball and I'd go outside to Coney Island and get a hot dog. Rest in peace, coney Island.
Speaker 2:But it's cool thinking that a place I used to go and go with my dad and we'd watch games, that was our thing. Now people get to come in there and experience something bigger and experience not just really big names but great local talent and witnessing this come together, because I've got to see a little bit of how it works and the festival scene and all the hands involved. It can be overwhelming if you really think about it, about what's going on and how much has to get done. And I'm not even anything like a part of that. Obviously, devin and Eve Hospital, eve hospitality group I think it is sorry if it's not devin, but, uh, devin everett's doing something pretty amazing and uh, and I think he's, I think it's because um his intention behind.
Speaker 2:You know his love for Fresno, his love for, like, curating events and so, yeah, I'm super grateful and I'm excited. I'm just really excited, yeah that's good, man, that's good good to be there with all my friends, you know, and play a kick ass show. Yeah so, and it's crazy because you know and play a kick-ass show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's crazy because you are going to leave a digital footprint in history for sure. Yeah, you were part of one of the biggest festivals in Fresno.
Speaker 3:That was like the foundation of it. Yeah, Like that's huge bro, totally, and then. So I have a question in regards to your music, right? So what? So? You said it's like mango pop.
Speaker 2:What instruments? It's like mango pop, we all know that yeah.
Speaker 3:So what instruments are you? Have you mastered? What instruments do you, do you perform with?
Speaker 2:um, so my main instrument is, uh, the guitar, okay. Whether it be electric or acoustic, okay.
Speaker 2:Um, usually when I'm writing, I pretty much write everything on acoustic and, uh, whether that becomes a fully acoustic song or not, it's always written on the acoustic. And sometimes, um, like when I get to the computer or I get to the studio and actually start recording it, um, you know, I definitely, I definitely am in the mindset of like, like there's no rules, right, right. Like, if it's fun and it sounds good, go with it. Right, try things out.
Speaker 2:But you know whether it turns into like an electronic song or something like house. That's always up in the air. But I play guitar. I play a little bit of keys. I'm really bad at drums but I try. So I'll employ someone or have a friend do it who's better than me, you know, at that Big on delegating certain things Right.
Speaker 1:If.
Speaker 2:I know like the sound or what I want and I can't achieve it myself. I'll definitely go out and try to find it Right.
Speaker 3:At least you don't struggle with it and then just produce it and put it out there and you're not happy with it. Yeah, because I've been there. Yeah, I could imagine, man, I could imagine.
Speaker 2:So I play a little bit of everything. I'm lucky enough that I can kind of play by ear and then with computers these days you don't have to know anything. You just need a computer and YouTube and you're good.
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's kind of been the process, kind of a little bit of what I play and shoot dude. It feels weird saying this, but I've been playing guitar for 22 years now, dang bro, almost as long as I've been alive.
Speaker 3:That's crazy, but I mean, hey, it's like being able to have something that you're able to like dial in for that long Bro. I couldn't tell you one thing that I've been able to dial in for 10 plus years other than driving.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's one thing, but like you pretty good at that.
Speaker 3:Oh, brother, I learned how to drive a stick when I was 14.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah, I've been driving since I can remember.
Speaker 3:I mean it's, I'm good at working on cars, but I'm not a master mechanic. Right right, I'm good at this, I'm good at videography.
Speaker 2:You got here somehow Exactly.
Speaker 3:So being able to curate passion, but also being able to master something, and not just one specific tool, but multiple. I mean you said whether it was acoustic or electric, like that's. You know how many people are only stuck on one instrument. It's insane. Yeah, that's a talent that I feel like is a lot of people don't have. And then, on top of that, the creative mind to be able to put your own lyrics together too, like brother that's that's. That's beyond me. I couldn't figure out how to.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, you, you think that you think that until you're in the situation and you got to yeah, yeah, that's true. You know like, we all have our own way of at least, hopefully, most of us of your own sort of therapy For some people it is driving. There's been times where I need to figure something out and I'll go on a walk or I'll go drive, I'll just tune everything out, get quiet or listen to my favorite music. But 100% I've noticed that if I am not creating something, it doesn't matter whether someone else sees it or not, because that's most of what I'm doing, most of what I've always done. No one's ever seen it, it's just been for me and it's been to. You know, like with lyrics, um, like just expressing those, getting those things out of you. Yeah, you know, get, because they'll. Things will come in and uh, like your thoughts, like what you're feeling, your relationships, money, like what you're feeling your relationships, money like what doesn't you know? Just life.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I've looked back on lyrics that I've written, you know, 10 years ago. There's been many times where I've looked back or heard something, or I'll find something on my computer that's really old, that I didn't know I was writing about at the time, right? But then you listen to it and you're like whoa, yeah, on my computer, that's really old, that I didn't know I was writing about at the time, right, but then you listen to it and you're like whoa yeah like fucking.
Speaker 2:I'm from the future yeah, just kidding I'm just kidding, but it's true, man like I, I think that if you put yourself in the room, so to speak, or put yourself like, put yourself in that situation whether whether you're in business for yourself, like entrepreneurial stuff or art or just things in general I think that there's an energy for sure to everything. And if you surround yourself with other talented people or other people with more experience, I truly feel and you know they always say, you are who you hang out with.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, that's facts 100% very careful and I'm sure you guys are too about who you surround yourself with.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Very very.
Speaker 1:It's hard Cause for us. I mean, we, we, we started with the big circle and eventually, you know people, there's betrayal, there's people that walk out, there's people that switch up and and then we're very careful with, like, who. We bring a part of us, yeah, um, but we, we're always skeptical. We always pay attention to certain things, but that's that's because we look out for one another. Yes, yeah, and we always have each other's backs, right? So we know that, hey, between me and you, we're we're set. There's nothing that's going to change us. What's up, everybody? This episode is sponsored by the one. The only Never Trusted. Never Trusted is a brand here based out of Fresno.
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Speaker 3:It's more or less like being able to have those creative minds around you that think the same, with the transparency, the okay, what is our goal and what's everyone's individual goal out of it? That's the biggest part of it too, um, and I think you know everybody's spontaneous, everybody's like, oh, we should do this. And it's like, oh, that's a great idea.
Speaker 3:But then later on down the road we find out, oh, that was not a good idea like it's, it's all in due time and it it has its procedures, but obviously you're not going to know that unless you go through it. Yeah, you're not going to know about like, oh, maybe we shouldn't implement this or maybe we shouldn't bring this person on because they have this intent. It's all in due time. You're not going to have it all figured out when you first start out. And that's something that I hope a lot of people understand, because it's like look how far we've all come.
Speaker 3:Look how long it had to take. You know, how long did it take you to really master anything like a guitar? I want to answer that question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I used to do this funny thing when I was probably nine and I was learning guitar. Um, you know, I was fortunate enough that, uh, my mom and dad put me in lessons, right?
Speaker 2:Heck yeah, so after school, like every Wednesday or something, my grandma would take me to where I took lessons. But you know, when you're nine years old and you got this big acoustic guitar and your hands are so small, you know you get frustrated. And I used to do this thing where, I kid you not, I would take my acoustic guitar. I'd get so frustrated because, for real, like there were days I didn't want to practice, they'd lock me in my room till I finished practicing.
Speaker 2:I remember those days, you know I remember those days and I would. I bit my guitar dude. I bit the corner of my acoustic. There's bite marks on it still, like what was I doing yeah but just that frustration and uh, but it probably took, uh, a good like two years before I actually started like it clicked and I started liking it. So two whole years of misery, but um, two whole years of misery, two whole years of biting the guitar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, biting the guitar.
Speaker 2:But I'm so grateful to my parents for that, Because everyone in my family is a musician. Everyone alive that I know. In my family all musicians at least can sing or something right, you know.
Speaker 3:So that's amazing. But to derive from that and then to see it come out of you, it's like wow, I was really meant for this I was made for this yeah that's sick dude yeah, so during this whole process, what was the biggest lesson that you learned?
Speaker 2:Process of, like fake mango music, dog days, anything, anything. One big thing is, I think, that you remember that old I don't know if it was Pinocchio or one of the Disney movies they say always let your conscience be your guide, that still small voice inside you that always knows what to do. One thing I've learned is to, first of all, don't question that voice if you've got. One thing I've learned is to first of all, don't question that voice If you've got the time, or if you've got, even if you don't have the time, listen to that voice. Sometimes, that voice, we don't hear it right, and it can be because we're scrolling on TikTok all day or, you know, watching TV, just being distracted by something. There's so much noise out there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I definitely have my nightly like ritual now, Like my alone time. It's very sacred to me and I turn all that stuff off and I you know whether, um, you know I'm trying to get like back into reading. I can't stand reading, but I'm trying you and me, both you know um, like I have the coolest books and, but have I read them all? No, right, but uh, there are things I'm doing to allow for greater things in my life, greater inspiration, just doing things different than I used to, right, right.
Speaker 3:Breaking old habits, breaking old habits, breaking old habits and creating new cycles. That's a good thing to do, bro.
Speaker 1:Totally man, very healthy bro, I feel like you guys have been through that same thing too, like what we were talking about earlier oh yeah yeah man it's uh, yeah me and dj have been through a lot together and I think that's why we've always looked out for one another, like, uh, he has his friend group and I have my friend group, but at the end of the day it's like no, I'm not going to be like them. We can party together for sure, right?
Speaker 2:right.
Speaker 1:But we can go days, weeks without talking to one another. Yes, and we'll hit each other up randomly, check up on one another, yeah, and that just defies what our relationship has.
Speaker 2:Yes, the foundation is yes, together, but separately, exactly.
Speaker 3:And we're very good about putting our minds together. Like for people who didn't grow up with each other. It's crazy because it's like dang. Like I've got family who I can't even connect with. Like I connect with this dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So to me, it's just like it's a huge blessing, because my creativity comes out whenever we put our minds together in regards to like content, um, ideas of the future and stuff like that. But all I'm gonna say is, brother, I'm grateful. You know this is. This podcast has gone a long way and obviously we wouldn't be able to even be here to meet you if it wasn't for all the long struggles, all the long nights of whatever you're going to do. What kind of content are we going to make? Stuff like that? So you know, being able to be consistent with your passion and continuing on with that hard work and doing it on the days that you really don't want to, but you know, you got to this is what it leads to, you know meeting people like my boy, nick, here with Fake Mango, and if you don't know who he is, you're going to find out real soon because Dog Day is September 6th.
Speaker 3:He will be performing. Tickets are $50. If you want to hear that new Mango pop, this is the guy that you're going to want to see. In regards to, because nobody's doing it just yet, his project is going to be performed there. You're going to be playing Babe, I'm a Cowboy there.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be playing Babe, I'm a Cowboy. Okay, I'm going to be playing my next single I'm dropping that's on September 5th, called Trying Okay, and a few others I'll be on the EDM stage what? I don't know what they're calling that stage, but I know it's the EDM stage. Don't know what they're calling that stage, but I know it's the EDM stage. Don't know what time yet, I was told at night. Hopefully I don't interfere with P-Lo or something. I better see at least two people at my stage, but I'll perform regardless.
Speaker 3:Who do you want to see perform the most, ian?
Speaker 2:Dior would be sick, Okay, yeah. Who do you want to see perform the most? Ian Dior would be sick, Okay, yeah. But I mean you've seen Summer Rae, right? Oh yeah, Photos. So I'm going to be there for that I heard she's getting married, though, so I'm a little bummed about that, oh man yeah. I know Summer, if it doesn't work out, I'll be in Fresno. Heck yeah, man, Heck yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, we're excited to see you. We're excited for the upcoming performances, because I've been seeing you on Instagram. I've been seeing what you're doing, bro. Keep it up. I'm excited to see what Mango Pop has in store for the future because, there's so much creativity here in the Valley that isn't getting the love it deserves.
Speaker 3:And obviously, starting something new is not easy to do. It's so hard to get an audience from something that nobody's heard before. The real music enjoyers will understand it, they'll grasp it and hopefully we can spread the word for you. And I mean, yeah, september 6th, be out there. Check out my boy, fake Mango, on Instagram. It's going to be a great festival event. I hope to see you at Art Hop if you're going to be there.
Speaker 1:I'll be there, bro, so we'll see you there and whenever you see us. Stop on by because we're going to be running around.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure yeah, oh heck, yeah, we'll do another interview with you too, right then, and there, let's do it, man yeah, and I'm grateful to you guys too, right for real.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much, and don't.
Speaker 1:Don't think this is the only one that you're you're gonna be getting. Trust me, we want to link up with you, peace and help out each other, because I think everyone deserves that support of one another.
Speaker 2:Yes, and this is another side of that, like podcasting it's it's something that people need, and now that you can go and buy the stuff and get good at yourself, and not have to hire. You know some, some label or some like some company you know yeah so for real appreciate what you guys are doing for fresno thank you putting on for the younger artists, the, the local artists, because we need it, man.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. This is the thing. We're not the best at content, no, and I think the content that you have now is the best because it's yours. I love that.
Speaker 3:It's about being proud of what you made and then building an audience off of that. I mean, that's how I started with my content.
Speaker 1:I was doing car reels, I was shooting videos in my car and it was and I would tell dj, I would tell dj, put your face on it, man, like let me get a video of you on there and he was like I don't know for so, is your face on there at all for like the beginning for the beginning of it, like the first maybe 10 reels I made no, and it was just me getting good with the camera, good at angles, good at mixing songs, right, uh, video effects, different apps.
Speaker 3:And then I started realizing, like holy shit, I'm like getting a platform off of this. People are following me because they fuck with this. I'm meeting people in the car community. Yeah, now, like uh, not last year, the year before that, no, last year was my first time going live on Instagram and that's crazy enough, because I'm like brother, I I'm scared to hit that live button.
Speaker 2:I'm not the kind of person to do it.
Speaker 3:I'm scared bro, I've always been camera shy, so that's another thing is throughout your process you will shed off fears and you know what's the word. I'm looking for Like insecurities.
Speaker 3:That you've had and you just get comfortable with doing what you love because you're just like, well, fuck whoever sees it. This is for me. I want to be proud of what I've made and if people support it, I support y'all, I love y'all. Thank you, um, but it's a part of the journey. You'll grow to appreciate it if you keep doing it. It's not gonna come like that, like, oh, I'm making good shit, I'm, I've got a fan base, like no, it takes time, it takes strength, it takes embarrassment sometimes. Oh yeah, there's totally trial and error.
Speaker 1:Through it all, I've always shared the experience. There's times where I've been recording and I forget to hit record on one thing you know, you know how oh yeah, dude or there's times that you go on there and you have like a game plan of what you want to talk about.
Speaker 2:We're recording now, right? Yes, I hope, I hope, yes everything's on.
Speaker 1:But there's moments like that that build up your foundation of like, hey, these are trials that you got to go through. These are things. Get through the moments of feeling cringe. And there's times where I'm making videos and I'm like, fuck, I fucked up or fuck, I did it. It's like I'll start all over here.
Speaker 2:We go um and then when people just walk by and they're just staring at you and they'll be like what are you doing?
Speaker 1:yeah, it's just like you feel embarrassed.
Speaker 2:You just feel like secondhand embarrassment when you're out in public doing a video. Yeah, walking by yeah, you got to do that thing where you just wait silent, you don't say anything to them you just wait silently, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then my girl always told me she was just like but look, everybody around you like yeah they're. They might be staring at you, but they don't care what you're doing.
Speaker 3:Even then they might be staring because they're actually interested in what you're doing so that's a platform outside of it. It's all about the perception. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, People have so much going on to be, honest in their own lives that you know you'd be hard-pressed for them to really be like. What's that guy doing?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Until you find your audience, you know, that is like yo I messed with that. Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1:Exactly For sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude that is like yo, I messed with that. Yeah, that's cool, Exactly for sure.
Speaker 1:I'm excited to watch what you guys do in the future. Totally, I'm excited for what you're going to do, because all this is creative space for you, brother, this spot.
Speaker 3:I don't know if you guys can see a good angle of all this, but this is going to be Fresno's next biggest.
Speaker 2:I don't want to call it a venue, but just know there's going to be a lot of good shit going on. Right here. The Mango Studios about to blow up Crazy, and that's another thing too.
Speaker 3:Like even with Devin, with Neaton, newark, we were talking with them on the podcast about like we want to be able to bring downtown Fresno back. We were talking with them on the podcast about like we want to be able to bring downtown Fresno back. Like let's bring just downtown back alive. Like you go to places like downtown LA, downtown Sacramento.
Speaker 1:It's always popping. It's always popping.
Speaker 3:They've put the money back into the city where it belongs. You come here to Fresno and I mean, look at Fulton Mall. Yeah, what used to be Fulton Mall.
Speaker 2:They've got the revitalized Fresno or downtown Fresno and I mean, look at Fulton Mall, yeah, yeah, what used to be Fulton Mall they've got the revitalized Fresno or downtown.
Speaker 3:Fresno but you're right dude let's let's let's revitalize downtown.
Speaker 2:Come on, let's do it.
Speaker 1:This is the soul, and I guess. I guess it is up to to people to just do it yes with or without the city's help, or yeah, devin said that on the podcast too, that the city's not or anyone's help. Devin said that on the podcast too. If the city's not going to do that, we should do it. It's time for us to step up, get those permits, get that business idea.
Speaker 3:Get your homies that you know you can trust, just do it and do it, get that business out there. The thing about downtown Fresno is people are like, oh, but it's sketchy. Oh, but it's sketchy, oh, but my business is broke. You're going to take a chance.
Speaker 3:no matter where you go, you're either going to pay top dollar to be stationed up north in Fresno or somewhere in Clovis and be scratching around in debt like crazy. Because, well, look where you're at, where you start with little to nothing and you build with that, with the people around you that are trying to do the same thing. But really put on for Fresno I mean you're already seeing it with neat nor the pizza spot right next to it. I mean it's like south of shaw. Yeah, yeah, south of shaw was amazing. I was telling my co-workers about that I was like bro.
Speaker 2:That spot was fire the cheese pool on that pizza the cheese pool it was like something out of a movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the goofy movie bro yeah, that goofy movie cheese pull, yes, and so it's like, just just, if you are wanting to make a change in Fresno, you want to see artists come up, you want to be the next person to be big, whatever the case may be, just do it. Just do it, bro, absolutely.
Speaker 1:And fake mango, you are going to be the next big thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Shoot bro, just be honest.
Speaker 2:You're starting something new. Look at you, brother. Hey bro, Of course I just make music with my friends.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but that's the beauty of it, that's how you start Heck, yeah, you're headed towards the right direction, bro.
Speaker 2:Thanks brother, appreciate you saying that. Yeah, just grateful to be here, guys.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, guys, absolutely. It's a pleasure to have you on here. And um one last question. Yes, sir, I got you, so let's just say devon ends up doing another dark days festival event don't give me a heart attack, let's get this first one done. No, I'm just kidding I wanted to ask would you have something in the mix ready for the next one? Are you so, with the pressure that's on you already, to perform at this one, let's say everything goes successful would you be ready to curate something for the next one?
Speaker 2:oh, yeah, uh, luckily, um, you know, I did start this fake mango project like four years ago, right, and I put out some of that stuff like on SoundCloud, like, but because of that I've got a lot of stuff and you know, at this point I'm prepared for mostly anything that comes my way. So I can say yes, confidently at this point that yeah, and a lot of great things are in the works right now for after dog days.
Speaker 3:Heck yeah.
Speaker 2:For Fresno and beyond.
Speaker 3:We're excited for that. Brother, I love seeing you progress. Don't stop. Do not stop, bro.
Speaker 2:I will not, bro, unless somebody runs me over, that's right. They're not even going't stop. Do not stop, bro. I will not, bro, unless somebody runs me over, that's right they're not even gonna stop me. Then, bro, I just need my hands, just do my hands and my voice and I'll be good, that's right, hell yeah heck yeah okay.
Speaker 1:Well, this was an incredible episode and I'm glad that we we got we got to get to know you a little bit more and for people to listen and hear your story and hear an incredible upcoming artist in Fresno. Thank you, bro. Thank you, thank you for taking the time of day, thank you for inviting us to your studio, of course, man, and again, always open. Incredible, bro, thank you.
Speaker 3:Awesome, Much love man.
Speaker 1:Thanks, guys you guys have a good one Much love Peace, peace.
